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Delta claiming their role is to ensure customers are treated with respect is hilarious considering they helped ICE jump this guy and slam him against a wall
They’re fully complicit because they fear the fascist regime. Looking forward to the day big corporations fear a progressive regime
Don’t forget they are also used for illegal prison transfer
Your blame is misplaced.
Literally 100% of all airlines, both US and EU are required to comply with TSA and European Commission individual EU countries flight security.
Compliance with TSA means allowing TSA to hand over control to ICE whenever they want and there is absolutely nothing a single airline can do about it. If you think they can, then don’t fly ever again.
Compliance to order doesn’t absolve you of blame, though?
I can’t recall anything famous about just following orders.
It sounds like a good original excuse.
Then we’re all to blame because we all comply with the law or risk going to jail and fines.
If it’s in the process of doing something illegal, then yes, you are to blame.
Except that’s the neat part. There is nothing illegal about “airline x do not allow that passenger to board” as an order from TSA that’s entirely legal thing. You have no “right” to fly and TSA has the completely authority to manage passengers. And this isn’t new at all, we’re talking Bush administration
ICE detaining and assaulting a US citizen is entirely illegal though.
I feel one issue that is being ignored is we don’t know who from the airline was initially involved and what they were told. What we do know is ICE is notorious for being duplicitous.
While Delta is just another vehicle for the accumulation and concentration of wealth, its employees, the people with whom TSA and ICE directly interface, are largely everyday people like you and I. Without more information, those criticizing the actions of the airline and by extension its employees are doing such based on assumption. They’re likely victims of ICE as well, if to a much lesser degree.
Yeah. Obstructing a federal agent is also a crime. Look at that judge who let someone out a side door instead of getting picked up by ICE. She was arrested and charged.
ICE is not TSA. They’re both under DHS, but that’s where the similarity ends
Further, not even the TSA can compel airlines to do cooperate in an arrest
Agreed, never said they were.
If you read the report or watch the video in the link, Delta never had anything to do with the arrest itself.
If an officer of TSA or European Commission individual EU countries flight security asks an airline to defer boarding or step aside, they’re required, literally by law to do it:
“The ATSA gives the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) the direct authority to oversee civil aviation security, issue binding security directives to air carriers, and enforce mandatory compliance without prior notice or public comment.”
The answer is literally in writing and is agreed upon internationally.
Moral or not, agreeable or not, it is the law.
Get the f@!% out of here with this sober logic and reasonable context. We are trying to nurture reddit nerd outrage and stupidity here.