• takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Well tell them to switch to electric, gas is not coming down any time soon 1/4 of oil supply was cut because of some idiot and the prices aren’t just high in California not on the whole world.

    In fact people in Europe would like to have our prices.

    Going back to taxes and fees. If your parents grew up in California they sure remember when we were infamous for smog. Smog was especially bad here, because of the geological position, on one side there’s wind from ocean on the other are mountains. That configuration prevents air from circulating and traps smog.

    Only after mandating catalysts, special, more expensive gasoline blend and pushing car manufacturers to lower emissions we for that under control.

    I didn’t know about you, but I rather pay more than have to worry on additional lung diseases and cancers.

    Also, most red states can lower their gas tax because our money partially funds their road maintenance. They should pay everything themselves instead of sucking free money. Damn socialists.

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    I had this same argument with some dipshit the other day, except they were blaming Biden and AlL tHe ExEcUtIvE oRdErS hE sIgNeD, didn’t want to listen how gas prices were not this bad literally a year ago. These people have lost all cognitive ability to discern facts from fiction.

    Maine this article explains it: https://www.psypost.org/lower-cognitive-ability-is-linked-to-stronger-christian-nationalist-views-even-after-accounting-for-education/

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    Say honestly both Trump and Newsom working to reduce our oil usage is a good thing. Trump is also working harder then any president to finally cut down US ranchers to give vegan diets a better chance.

    Its just too bad Trump wasnt as smart anf its costing us billions for his plan to go back to the middle east for a few decades compared to just taxing it.

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    Ask what party controls the House, Senate, White House, and Supreme Court.

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    Tell them they’re stupid and stop talking with them.

    I cut my shithead republican family members out of my life and it’s made it much better. No more arguing with pondscum about how living under Biden was as bad as ice kidnapping and murdering people in the street.

    Been a really nice year without that

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    Just make something up that you find funny. There is no point engaging in reality.

    Say Newsom actually passed legislation that lowered prices act but trump over turned it because hes brought and paid for by the oil and gas lobby.

    Whatever they reply just make up something that directly counters it. Let them see how it feels to try and debunk bullshit 24/7

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    Don’t bother engaging. They will not change their mind, you will not change yours. All roads lead to friction.

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    Did they bitch about gas prices under biden and solely blame him? If so, ask what’s different now. See if they can point to state level changes that affected gas prices.

    This is assuming they would at least attempt a good faith argument. If not, I’d just laugh and imply they have the mentality of a child thinking they figured out the world and are dead wrong. Like listen to their inane rants and just kinda chuckle as if it’s impressive they built such a convoluted plot in their head.

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      I’m genuinely curious. What does the California state gas taxes have anything to do with any recent elections?

      It sounds like the complaints are about the difference in gas prices between California and the rest of the U.S., not gas prices in general.

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        The complaints are because of the recent spike (or rather bump, as spike implies it will go down).

        California prices are still cheaper than what rest of the world pays.

        Those people purchased gas guzzlers because gas (even in California) was cheap. Now those gas guzzlers cost them much more.

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    Tell them to move. Living on the West Coast is a privilege. If they don’t like it they are free to leave.

    Also, it’s not the taxes that cause the price of gas to fluctuate daily, it’s supply and demand of things like crude oil. Trump’s stupid war in Iran has caused oil prices to spike globally, and this is easy to prove.

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    Two options.

    1. Remind them that they are stupid and that California’s air quality used to be way worse before stricter fuel refinement and SMOG laws. As a Californian I can literally confirm this within my own lifetime.

    2. Stop speaking to them like I’ve done with all the dipshit conservatives in my orbit because you’ll never change them so why waste your time on lost causes? The only possible catalyst for change is them losing their loved ones due to their own ignorance but, realistically, that same ignorance will prevent them from accepting that it’s their own fault.

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      We saw the Herman Cain awards. I occasionally visit Reddit from my work laptop (it’s worse and worse these days), and they even have a sub now called “leopards ate my farm.” Watching those farmers describe their issues that Trump caused while never blaming him would tell any of us all we need to know about how willing these people are to change their minds when faced with new information.

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    You always go crazier.

    Bring up the ancient aliens that have infiltrated the highest levels of the Russian and Israeli governments and are using bisexual mind control to force Trump to cuckold himself to Newsom, causing the theta waves to destabilize the oil reserves, leading to the shortages that will allow Mongolia to rise as a global power.

    That, or do the smart thing and shrug and walk away.