But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?
Another trick is to change your state to California, which has a click to cancel law.
The FTC made C2C a requirement nationwide for the US but Trump undid that in 2025.
That policy is likely illegal.
But the same can be said about gambling platforms.
As an European, the “you can’t close your account too fast, this process is mandatory” thing would be a one way to a trial.
You Europeans and your consumer protection laws… I love getting ripped off and taken advantage of by companies!
Ahem, it’s your freedom to be ripped off!
I wonder how MAGA would frame this? “Unlike in Socialist Europe, our successful companies are free from the oppressive, anti-business protection racket their citizens have to deal with”
And not a trial vs consumer, you’d be sued to oblivion by consumer protection agency.
It’s almost certainly illegal in the Us too
meaningless
Not sure if you’re aware of this, but companies break laws in the EU too.
That policy is likely illegal in the US & it certainly is extremely uncommon. I’ve never heard of it. This post isn’t an EU vs US thing which they were trying to make it.
That’s the meaning.
So you have to abstain for 91 days to be able to close your account??? Fucking slime
I think it might be 114+. People with compulsion/addiction issues aren’t allowed to leave.
fucking hell they are really playing on people’s gambling addiction aren’t they
That’s what casinos are!!
fair enough…
Super illegal in 95% of jurisdictions
they should 100% be put in jail for this
This is super clever. I cannot believe this never occurred to me, and I discovered it in a Lemmy ‘shitpost’ no less.
Let’s keep up the memes and shitposts in this category!
And polymarket, despite being a literal gambling site, is actually fraud
What country is “you can’t close your account unless you go 90 days without using it first” legal in?
The USA. Facebook also does this.
One tactic on social media is to delete as much as you can, change all your profile data so it’s bogus, and retroactively revise as much of your comment history so that it’s meaningless, such as NSA haikus.
That way the account may not be closed, but it’s toxic. It will poison algorithm analyis, your consumer profile and AI scraping.
The Escapist refused to let me close my account in the early 2010s. So I did this.
This looks like a gambling app. So it’s not that you can’t close it until it’s not used. Voluntary exclusion is a mandatory policy required by legislation so a gambling addict can ask a casino to functionally ban them. This app is extra predatory in that they don’t allow a permanent ban right away. Their goal is to make it take multiple requests so an addict can relapse and spend more money and it’s the addicts fault.
So the 24 hour and 90 day periods are different? Maybe it’s because of the LLM but they’re presented as the same thing.
Ya, they’re sequential. So if you have a devastating loss you can’t just immediately delete your account, you need to cool down for 24hr before they’ll even let you request a full 90 day self exclusion. And finally only after that can you actually delete your account.
A shithole country.
I can think of a lot of services.
“We’ll deactivate your account but not fully close it. If you want to cancel closure log back in within 30 days.”
The kind that wants market driven solutions.
its called “laxed regulation for dubious reasons”. happens all the time because government officials should probably wear F1 gear with all their sponsor logos slapped on them.
If the press were doing its job, they would put politicians’ donors’ names on the screen with them.
I remember a few people complaining about being permanently banned from online games for lying in the in-game chat about being very young.
Sounds like a win
I started dipping into watching regular cable again since we have it at the moment bundled with our internet, and man the commercials are bleak now. It’s all weight loss medication, depression medication, and gambling apps.
The programming is pretty fucking bleak, too. My elderly parents have cable TV and I try to watch it sometimes to entertain myself while I’m taking care of them, and I can’t find a fucking thing worth watching despite them having 500 channels or so. I always end up watching Beat Bobby Flay on the Food Channel and I can’t stand that fucking show.
Hahahaha yeah I’m there with you on the Beat Bobby Flay. I end up watching that or like Storage Wars, occasionally I’ll catch Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. But mostly it’s a lot of shit I wouldn’t have wanted to watch back when cable was the standard.
And my viewing habits have just changed so much that even if something is on that I would watch, I already have access to it elsewhere so I’d rather not watch it on cable.
Jeopardy just depresses me now. I used to think I could have at least competed on the show, but for the last 20 years or so I’ve been completely disconnected from pop culture and I could never hope to answer that type of question. I also miss Trebek, god damn it. Ken Jennings is alright but it’s not just the same.
To be honest I’m about as connected to Jeopardy trivia as I’ve ever been, which is to say it mostly still flies over my head and there’s the occasional questions that I know and the rare times when there’s one that I know that the contestants do not.
The concept of watching a 22 minute program in half an hour is over.
Streaming plateforms are so bad that traditional TV doesn’t seems that catastrophic anymore.
The high seas are peaceful and serene. Yar.
Weight loss meds are a miracle
Sorry, I can’t read your comment because ozempic blinded me
Have you tried Ozempic? Have you? Huh? You fat piece of shit!? Ozempic! Try it! Here’s a coupon for 50% off Ozempic. Have you tried it yet?
Also, hurt in a crash? Call us! We’ll get you MILLIONS because you swerved to avoid that child in the street and hit a traffic light! We’ll sue that child’s family FOR YOU!
Funny but t2d blinds a ton of folks. If glp1s blind more than t2d, they will pull them off the market.
Why?
Because by the nature of how human fats work - there is hardly a safe way to get rid of them without working out. This is why every weight loss drug has had serious side effects.
GLP-1 is like the first one that’s supposedly safe for general public (hence the miracle), but we are already seeing lawsuits and what not from bad side effects, so might not be too big of a miracle after all.
This is without even getting into the cardiovascular system and how this enables lazy lifestyle (instead of working out) that inevitably leads to early death for many
Nothing is free, the difference between medicine and poison is dose.
I would bet my life that there are unknown unfortunate side effects that a lot of people won’t like; time will reveal. There’s a race to sell all that they can now before those side effects are widely known
I was interested in GLP-1 at one point, but after seeing the possible side effect of “hair loss”, I decided my hair was preferable to 20 lb. weight loss.
GLP drugs just reduce appatite, right?
I honestly don’t even know how they work as they really aren’t common in Europe. That being said, US is positioned in quite a terrible place when it comes to nutritionism, so on average for every pound American eats, they get like 70% percent of the nutrients and vitamins as opposed to someone from UK for example. This means that if Americans start eating less simply because of GLP, malnutrition is going to spike. For many the daily food is so bad that for you to not be deficient, you will be obese.
Looking online, the stats look worse than I remembered, so I’m not sure how accurate it is.
The US is also the home of “we have all this corn we have to figure out how to make money off of” and so did A/B testing to find the snacks which are the hardest to stop eating. It’s scientifically designed to cause obesity.
And artificial flavouring doesn’t help either, since our brains map flavours to nutrients. Cravings for specific foods can be related to how much your body needs nutrients it associates with that food. But artificial flavours don’t come with any nutrients, they are just chemicals that mimic how the actual food interacts with our taste buds. So it can crave foods that do nothing to help with the nutritional needs, you’ll feel good for a bit because of how the body handles hunger (it subsides when we eat, not when we digest it and get access to the nutrients and calories, otherwise we’d always overeat), but then when the nutrient levels don’t change, it craves it again.
That’s how there’s so many people that are simultaneously obese and malnourished. The food has the calories and the body stores them for later use, but it doesn’t have the nutrition while foods have.
The average U.K. adult is not the threshold for preventing malnutrition.
I never said that
Nothing is free, the difference between medicine and poison is dose.
This.
Fentanyl will fucking kill you with micro-grams of a dose spliced into that line you’re about to snort.
It’ll also help your brain feel happy after you suffered a traumatic injury and you’re laying in a hospital.
I wonder how permanent closure is different from permanent lockout, but maybe it is similar enough in this case (I expect, they keep your data in the latter case)
They would dump your data asap. They want no record that they illegally let a minor use their site.
They would dump your data asap. They want no record that they illegally let a minor use their site.
they’d keep it just to show that once they found out the account was a minor’s, they closed the account immediately. it’s proof of compliance.
But they certainly wouldn’t share that 12yo’s information with other companies to prove how good a company they are in shutting down a 12yo’s account, giving other companies all the information from the 12yo’s account to help the other companies better shut down future 12yo’s accounts.
“We’re not sharing a 12 year old’s information. We’re passing on information on how to prevent us from sharing a 12 year old’s information in the future!”
For 6 years they won’t
Maybe they just start emailing you again in six years
But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?
It’s a gambling site.
Gambling is inherently predatory. It’s addictive. Gambling sites prey on this addiction. They’re not gonna let you go so easily. The wait period is to see if you’re really one of their best customers, unable to go cold-turkey.
But it’s so obviously flagrantly predatory… I really thought this would be too far, like legally.
I remember a time when Gambling was poison to professional sports. I’m not talking about office fantasy teams, or small bets between friends. I’m talking capital G Gambling. Professional Gambling run by businesses and gaming commissions. Professional sports tried very hard to distance themselves from gambling, so much so that Vegas didn’t have professional sports teams. Now there’s a ribbon on the screen showing Gambling stats the whole game. It’s ridiculous.
Now I know we can’t put the genie back into the bottle. Gambling apps are here and they’re not going anywhere. We can stop the ubiquitous ads. We’ve done this before with cigarettes. It wouldn’t be hard. Take down the ads, stop showing betting lines during the game, remove any mention of it. Cause right now it really looks like professional sports and gambling are joined at the hip and before too long American professional sports will be more about gambling than the game. Which lets face it, professional sports are about being a profitable business first and a sports team second. We’ve just completely forgotten about the game to make another quick buck.
To be honest, anything at all that ruins professional sports is fine in my book.
Cause right now it really looks like professional sports and gambling are joined at the hip and before too long American professional sports will be more about gambling than the game.
i thought that already happened in the NBA and NFL. MLB, maybe. Pete Rose and Michael Jordan come to mind.
Yeah, not to be pithy but the first step is admitting there’s a problem. That’s where we’re at now (or trying to get to).
It’s so weird to me that sports/gambling have become so conflated. Clearly a lot of money has been thrown at the businesses running professional sports to land us here.
Cigarettes is a perfect analogy. It’s not even an extreme comparison, both are undeniably a net harm to people, but are somehow normalized.
It really is. Tons of people still smoke. Some people chain smoke so much that it’ll kill them before they’re 50. We try to convince them stop smoking but if they want to smoke 5 packs a day we won’t stop them. We don’t advertise cigarettes. I mean they’re cigarettes, they advertise themselves. So does gambling. The apps aren’t advertising gambling, they’re advertising their app against the other gambling apps. Gambling sells itself just fine.
Have you seen who’s making the laws?
be this site
advertise to kids using discord servers
if they win from gambling, ban them bc they’re underage
if they lose, it’s their loss anyway
double your profits with a simple trick
btw this is not just a meme. This is something they literally do, see this vid for more details: https://youtu.be/yJZ9SwRArqs
My nephew fell for this trick. He’s not a child, but he was gambling online on a European site as an American. He won big, tried to withdraw, they asked for a European passport. RIP his entire account.
Yup, this has been going on since the very early days of online casinos. A buddy of mine get screwed out of a few thousand playing one of those Caribbean poker sites because the Caribbean “bank” which handles the deposits didn’t participate in the US banking system, and he’d checked a box which certified that he was a citizen of St Lucia or something. Whoops.
For any finincial anything always do a round trip with a $10 too see if it’s possible.
He was putting in thousands, about $5,000 USD. They were letting him withdraw a few hundred here and there. Then he won something like $10k that’s when they did a Know Your Customer check. Which he failed, obviously. They kept his principal and his winnings, lol.
Hopefully he took it as a lesson. Not much else he can do. They said on their terms of service Americans were explicitly forbidden. Not much recourse.
That’s not a trick, that’s a legal requirement. They have to do KYC on a few grand and AML once it gets bigger. I had to go through this with Wise when I received a life insurance payout from another continent and I had to phone customer support to get it cleared.
I’m not saying it was illegal or anything, just that they probably make a lot of money turning on the KYC after big wins. They’ll never do one to a losing customer.
In that sense, I do believe it’s a bit tricky.
Hmm…
I’d wager KYC applies either way (anyone placing a bet should be known, not just who ends up winning) and not paying out wins is a clear breach of contract.
So very clearly doubly illegal. First they let any rando gamble, and then they don’t pay out wins.
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I’ve heard of scammers paying out small amounts deliberately to reel in more money so this still doesn’t guarantee it’s real.
So the trick is to find a bunch of scammers to try this on
Even legitimate gambling websites do this, I was able to cash out £150 fine but a few weeks later when I tried to cash out at £700 I had to supply id. I was still able to deposit more money from the same card though, supplied my id, cashed it all out, told them to delete all of my details and account and never looked back
Legal requirements, KYC doesn’t kick in from 0, but it does after a few hundred or thousand
But surely it would stop me from giving them money aswell as taking it? If it was actually a safeguard
