Ah, manic episode, that explains it. And yeah, people who are manic are prone to do things that are kinda funny when you first hear about them, but get less funny the more you know. Obviously a bad thing to do, but yeah kinda amusing, definitely mental illness.
So much discourse in this thread. I can’t believe so few people can agree that something can be both wrong and funny as fuck at the same time.
We are living in a post-nuance world.
Sounds funny, but what she did and said in the classroom was lame as hell.
She’s funny like how Trump is really funny. It’s not her actions that are funny. It’s her absurd character.
Jones is scheduled for a preliminary court hearing on October 20 and, according to the Independent, could face a maximum 21 years in prison if she is convicted.
If only she was a child molester, she’d be out already.
This sentence should not be possible under these circumstances, unreal
However, after that teacher left she allegedly proceeded to organise students by race and gender, insult them using racial slurs and derogatory statements, and use explicit language — as well as playing loud rap music and bragging about being OK with going to jail.
A 16-year-old boy in the class told authorities that she also called one student ‘fat boy’ and told two white pupils that ‘they were the type to start school shootings’, Independent reports.
I know a lot of people are going to sound off about how they had it worse when they were a kid, but mental and verbal abuse is still abuse. It was never okay, not back then, and not now. This lady doesn’t even have the excuse of being old and worn out like many of the professionals in that field. She’s 23, doesn’t actually work in that field, just decided to show up and being abusive.
Not an excuse, but it’s likely due to bipolar disorder.
If bipolar disorder is involved, it’s still a combination of various factors.
Bipolar disorder alone doesn’t cause something like this, I’d know because I have it and I can’t imagine ever doing something like this, even in my wildest manic episodes, even though I have a pretty serious case of it.
The other factors could be anything. Some examples: trauma, co-morbid mental conditions or just being a shitty person in general. Those are just some examples, like I said, it could be anything and it’s likely the other stuff is things we probably couldn’t even think of.
maximum 21 years in prison if she is convicted.
America really does love jailing people
it’s free slavery!
It’s better than free. It is taxpayer funded slavery.
A nation completely devoid of a sense of proportionality.
That is some Roald Dahl shit right there.
I was so sure this was an onion…
Im not saying its right, but after cycling to work past a school I can understand…
I’m pretty sure this was what a couple of my substitutes were doing when I was in school.
Sounds much nicer than what we did to substitutes back in the day. The goal was to make them cry, but if they stormed out to go bitch about us, that was good too.
I wonder how we would have reacted to her.Anyway, it was depraved, evil, bad, omg the children, they’ll never recover from this. They should sue the school for the trama and psychological injury. So badly run the school didn’t even know who was being put in front to the students.
five counts of exposing a child to harmful descriptions
Ffs! That’s a RIDICULOUS “offense” if I’ve ever seen one 🤦🏻
I’m not saying that I condone any of the racist parts, of course, but COME ON! Harmful fucking DESCRIPTIONS?!
She’s facing 21 years.
Donald Trump could have raped everyone in that room and got 21 years less than that.
You’ve clearly never had to console a child after they were called names that cut deep to their core.
I have, and not once have I thought anybody should be arrested for it.
An adult saying those things to a child is verbal abuse.
Children are not small adults with all the same processing abilities that we have.
Tell that to my ex wife fuck both our kids up by treating them as equals and not the children they were.
I would say it straight to her face because it’s the truth.
I don’t think that’s significantly different from every fucking sub my kid has had in elementary school.
Mr. Blah said that if we didn’t stay absolutely quiet all day that instead of going to recess, he was going ot make us all do pushups.
They’re fucking first graders. go fuck yourself mr blah because empty threats aren’t going to mean shit to these kids.
one of the few subs I actually remember was a science-substitute (his specialty was biology), and he’d bring his snakes to class and let them wander about the class room and chill with the kids.
He actually cared about the kids he was teaching.
then there was the white South African sub that spent the entire class bitching about “discrimination” because she was denied scholarships for (black) South Africans affected by apartheid. she was just bitchy. (and credit to our history teachers, they found out about it and gave us an impromptu weeklong lesson on Apartheid.)
Do all white South Africans suck? I knew a guy who applied for scholarships for African Americans because he’s from Africa and he’s American, he was bitching about getting denied during the interview stage for obvious reasons. He knew that African American meant something specific that definitely excluded him, he’s just an asshole.
A lot of them have a cultural background encouraging them to suck. It’s like white people from the American southeast. Being raised in the privileged race of an extremely racist society where your family may have grievances about being forced to lose forms of political power and explicit domination can make for some really awful people (as well as some really awesome people who grow up with an internal understanding that all this shit is wrong and fighting against it).
I haven’t met all white South Africans… but, there does seem to a pattern.
Edit to add: it might just be the ones fleeing from the consequences of Apartheid rather than all; and it’s not like I’ve personally met that many of them. (But we can lump musk and trump’s “refugees” into this pattern, too)
I know a white South African who’s very chill and kind and he works with Aboriginal Australians and if you ask him nicely he’ll do magic tricks with a deck of cards and when I was having a hard time with My mental health he helped Me access a counsellor and followed up to see how I was doing afterwards.
The ones I worked with in The Netherlands and Britain didn’t seem to be a problem.
Maybe America attracts a certain kind of white South African more than those countries?!
Nah, all but one of the white South Africans I’ve met in the US have been pretty awesome. In general the people from any country that seek out other cultures are, somewhat necessarily, not the xenophobic or supremacist ones. There are always gonna be shitheads, especially when they feel they might need to “flee” their home country, but the vast majority are just nice folks that like other people (this doesn’t apply to tourists in super touristy areas - we just had a family get their kid gored because they tried to pet a bull elk in mating season and they’ve turned around and are now trying to sue the rangers for not warning them enough)
In my own experience living in other countries and knowing quite a lot of other immigrants (as people tend to more easily bond with those living similar experiences, with the result that immigrants tend to mix more with other immigrants - and not just people from the same country of origin but immigrants in general - than with the locals), people who go live in other countries out of their own choice tend to have two main kinds of drives for that and hence personalities:
- People who moved elsewhere because they actually like meeting other people from different cultures and living life in different ways than the one they grew up in, or as you said “seek out other cultures”.
- People who moved elsewhere driven by wanting to make more money and have a better life.
From what I’ve seen in a couple of countries, the former are a lot rarer than the latter, they’re also generally more open-minded people. However the latter are not at all open-minded and in my own experience are often very conservative types, possibly even more so than the locals (this is my experience both with most of my countrymen when I was an immigrant abroad and with immigrants living in my own homeland).
Anyways, what you say about you experience with South Africans in the US does match my experience with South Africans in Europe, my point is just that your broader conclusion about openness of immigrants in general does not at all match my own - most immigrants out there are of the second kind and thus they’re not at all more open minded than people in general and might even be more close minded (as I said, seen it both with my countrymen whilst living abroad and with immigrants in my homeland - and it seems to me that most immigrants are more conservative and less open minded than average, which is probably what leads some immigrants to form single-nationality communities when living abroad whilst in my experience the “seek out other cultures” kind tends to live amongst the locals).
I don’t think our experiences are contradictory - I think I perhaps under-emphasized that it was people who seek out other cultures, rather than the ones that insulate themselves from the culture they live within, that are necessarily the less-xenophobic ones. There may well be piles of immigrants that mix primarily with other immigrants and are at the same time awful people (by host culture standards), but it follows that unless we are members of that community, we’re unlikely to have ever met them. Were it a strict rule it might approach tautology (and aside from that it’s fairly good example of why anecdotal evidence is unreliable), but it does seem that our experiences are fairly closely aligned.
I would totally pretend to be a substitute teacher. I would teach the kids all the shit they aren’t learning like trade unionism, actual socialism, everything that Republicans in America and conservatives in Canada don’t want people to be learning but aren’t I would try to interest the kids in.
“How do we know that what you tell us is the truth?”
“You don’t. And that’s the greatest lesson of all.”
What show is that?
Daria, spin-off of Beavis and Butt-head and quintessential 90s show.
Doing the lords work.
And rock, right?
Metal, it is the way of truth and open emotion.
Especially rock
Jones is scheduled for a preliminary court hearing on October 20 and, according to the Independent, could face a maximum 21 years in prison if she is convicted.
WHAT? 21 years just for pretending to be a teacher and hurling some slurs? Even murderers often get less.
Jeffrey E. Likely had less and actually harmed kids.
Slightly off-topic, but Epstein actually was a high school teacher, back in 1974 when he was 21. He taught high school kids math at the Dalton School in Manhattan, hired by the guy that ran it, Donald Barr, despite Epstein’s lack of a college degree. (Donald Barr was the father of Bill Barr, the US Attorney General under Trump 1.0, and also the author of a science fiction novel about a planet ruled by oligarchs who engage in child sex slavery. You can’t make it up.)
But Epstein only lasted the first academic year. His behavior was so sketchy that they were about to fire him at Dalton, when one of his student’s parents got him a new gig at Bear Stearns. I have never run across anything substantive on the specifics of why he was in trouble at Dalton, just rumors of non-professional behavior and too much attention paid to specific female students.
she needed to pose as teacher? i had the feeling a good amount of actual teachers hate kids
She didn’t even know she could get paid to do this every day!
and it seems like you don’t even need an education for it.
