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Elon Musk is not an engineer. You’d think an academic would be able to grasp this
When he rose to fame he was portrayed as an engineer genius, and EVERYONE lied about it. It’s not strange people believed it. It’s not normal for this to happen.
I’d argue that rich people being touted as genius in subjects they know very little about and perform fairly poorly at historically until they throw enough money at it and surround themselves with actual experts is actually the norm.
Despite naming his slop dispenser “Grok” El Muskito gives the impression of a complete lack of familiarity with Heinlein.
It’s funny how musk often tries to put pop culture references in his “insults” and then it falls completely flat. Like he clearly was referencing Trophic Thunder’s “Never go full retard” line. But he used it in such a dumb way that it makes him look even dumber. Like who even says “fully retarted”
A “genius” trillionaire’s only retort is name-calling? What a big fat stupid head. /s
They should build data centers in frigid climates next to large building complexes, so they can pump the heat into those buildings.
But there aren’t really any places that are cold year round where a large number of people live.
yakutsk in russia has ~350k people living in an average annual -8°c
but Russia.
Not yet…
Keep in mind it’s most probably a AI agent throwing insults.
the only way i see data centers working in space is on the dark side of earth, and even then well have to run them hot to work properly witch i think is easier then trying to cool them down.
He is the richest guy on earth. He could do anything. Fly his personal airship over the alps. Go scuba-diving at the best spots. Invite the smartest or funniest people on earth for a personal chat. Or he could fund artists. Go jet-skiing in the maledives. Do really cool things. But all he does is spitting insults on Twitter. Which is pathetic
Don’t forget the child porn and the fascism. You never forget the fascism and child porn.
And to be fair to him, that takes up a lot of his time.
He could literally end world hunger forever and be remembered as the Jesus of our age for millennia to come. What does he do? Wallow in his own self-pity, trying to gain the respect of pedophiles.
well put. he could use his fortunes and companies to move the US away from petroleum, instead builds luxury products. he could use his fortunes and companies to end world hunger and aid the least able to stop displacement from climate change… instead builds AI data centers belching out effluence and swastitrucks and turns twitter into a cess pool while jumping in to CUT aid to entire continents.
he’s the worst of us. at every turn, instead of doing the human thing, he chooses selfish garbage.
anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk, nationalize spaceX!
So, you know how a good thermos keeps its contents hot or cold, depending on what you put in it?
You know the trick they use to do that? They use a vacuum.
Heat can be passively transferred using convection, conduction and radiation. Convection requires the movement of fluid, there’s no fluid in a vacuum so that can’t happen. Conduction requires that one vibrating molecule causes another adjacent molecule to vibrate. Again, not possible in a vacuum because there are no molecules to transfer that vibration. That leaves radiation.
(In a thermos it’s not quite that simple. A thermos isn’t floating in space, the outside needs to connect to the inside somehow, so even though there’s a big vacuum bottle, the heat gets transferred through the parts that aren’t in a vacuum.)
Radiation is possible in a vacuum, it’s just really inefficient. People used to see radiation transfer in a vacuum all the time: incandescent light bulbs. They’re much more rare these days. But, in that case a filament was heated up so much that it glowed white hot. To reduce the heat transfer, that white hot filament was put in a vacuum – the bulb of the light bulb. If you ever touched one, you know they got hot. But, the filament was 2500 celsius, and the bulb itself was maybe slightly over 100C. That shows how inefficient radiation is. Even with something that’s thousands of degrees, it only heated the glass of the bulb from say 20C to 120C.
So, it’s hard to dump heat in space. The only thing that works is radiation, and radiation is much less effective when things are not glowing white hot. In addition, anything in space is getting heated up by the sun. So, not only do you need to dump any heat the device produces itself, it also needs to dump any heat it’s receiving from the sun.
What are two of the main things that datacenters need? Power and cooling. The need for power is famous because it’s driving up electricity costs. The need for cooling is well known because of all the water being used.
To meet the power needs, a datacenter would need massive solar panels to collect as much sunlight as possible. The solar panels on the ISS provide about 30kW of power. A small datacenter (and I mean small), uses 1 MW. So, for one small DC you’d need 30x the number of solar panels as on the ISS. If you’re talking a conventional pre-AI datacenter, it’s more like 100MW, so you’d need 3000x the number of solar panels as on the ISS.
Solar panels create electricity from sunlight, but by design they have to be facing the sun, which means they get heated up too. So, before you even turn on a computer in the DC, you have to find a way to dump all that heat that the solar panels are creating. Then, let’s say you want to actually turn on the computers in the DC. On earth can be cooled by dumping water on something hot and letting water evaporate. That’s really easy to do, and really cheap. You just move the heat from the computers into the water and it goes into the sky. But, in space, there’s no sky to evaporate into, and no source of water. So, you need radiative cooling. Now, just imagine how much radiative cooling you’d need to match the performance of a simple “dump water on it” cooling system.
tl;dr: The idea of datacenters in space is ludicrous. Even someone as stupid as Musk knows that. But, investors are dumber than Musk – or at least investors think that there are other investors that dumb, so they won’t get stuck with the shares if they need to sell them. Musk needs the belief that datacenters in space to be possible or his shares all crash in value.
You know he only has a bachelors degree… supposedly two from the same year. And both are suspicious. From University of Pennsylvania. Same university that trump has his from.
Bachelors in economics. And physics.
And he claimed he graduated in year. 1995. But no degree could be shown for like 10 years. And then when one finally surfaced in 2009, which magically was needed for a legal litigation , it had a different year on it. 1997.
The people he was in that legal battle with said he dropped out of college in 1995. Never finished his economics degree. Never studied physics.
It also wasn’t a graduate level degree like he claimed.
It’s highly suspicious because now he suddenly has two degrees for the same year. One in economics. And one in physics. 1997. When he was working on PayPal or something else. But had time to finish two degrees!?
The degree copies were made public 2009.after he made a very generous endowment.
Also the supposed bachelors of physics is an arts degree. Which is pretty unusual for a science based degree.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/
Guy is a fraud. Bought two fake degrees.
Wasn’t dean of university of Pen in the Epstein files?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/epstein-files-investigations-resignations-larry-summers-steve-tisch/
Anywho
He’s not even an engineer. He actually didn’t know about vacuum cooling.
Just like I didn’t. Cause I’m also not educated in physics or engineering.
Lots of math degrees are BAs and double degree path is a thing, but yeah a lot of details don’t add up.
anything in space is getting heated up by the sun
Just keep it on the dark side of the moon, duh.
How does earth cool? Through radiation. If the data centers stay on earth, earth will heat up. At some point there will be so many data centers that earth cannot take more heat.
I mean, yes, but that amount of heat is fairly negligible, especially relative to global warming from fossil fuel emissions.
There is no limit and with robots there can be exponential growth in construction velocity. Almost all available energy, including space solar farms and both nuclear energies, could be used for AI. If the data centers are on earth that will heat earth faster than radiation can cool it.
Mate go educate yourself first before you make an embarrassment out of you
You’re talking about things that have wildly different orders of magnitude as if they were similar.
You’re also ignoring that sending all that material into space is not efficient at all in terms of heat and emissions
The cybertruck is the only car he engineered.
He didn’t engineer anything.
Ever watch the Simpson’s episode where Homer “designs” a car for his brother?
That’s the level of design felon husk has done with his scam truck.
After he broke the “bullet proof” glass when showing off the retard truck everyone in the world should have turned their backs on him and the scamming truck.
*prompted
Elon Musk is the personification of a moron’s hallucination of a genius.
ketamine/cocaine/expensive wine and pedophelia personified.
There are few things funnier than someone being wrong at the top of their voice.
Especially when it’s the world’s richest narcissistic psychopath being wrong at elementary school level. This is not forbidden knowledge - a majority of the people on the planet probably know how a thermos flask works.
Fun fact: Musk isn’t an engineer at all.
Engineering qualifications are pretty specific, and usually the term shouldn’t be used loosely if those qualifications aren’t there. Musk’s education ended at the Baccalaureate level, but crucially in Physics and Economics. He pushes himself as some kind of engineering mastermind, but it’s hard to pin down why.
Contrary to popular belief, he also is not a founder of Tesla.
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he is a engineer of ketamine usage,
Technically he is founder of Tesla though. He just didn’t found it.
For some reason, in the US you can buy the title of “founder of X”. He just bought if from the actual founders.
I mean, he found out that there was a company called Tesla and then became CEO…
Yeah. The Wiki offers the more sane answer.
To be fair, Engineer isn’t a protected title in the U.S.
A Professional Engineer is, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone claim Musk is a P.E.
Titles ending on engineer is so bloated, basically anything within IT is an engineer. A support level 1 engineer. A software engineer. A Quality Assurance engineer. And the list goes on, historical reason being corporate pay bands being based on titles, hence engineers were offered better pay
Prompt Engineer is driving me insane.
They’ll be calling themselves prompt artistes next.
Fair
Elon Musk isn’t an engineer. He’s a capitalist. (Plays with money)
All that money, power and fame… and he types slurs at people who criticize him online. There are many facets of pathetic to this.
