• PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    This is kinda excessively insulting and ignorant.

    All my ancestors came to the US as poor white trash. The Irish ones were being actively starved.

    Switzerland is like 80% ethnic “Swiss” and the rest of it is Italian, French, and German.

    Honestly, to an American, European ethnic uniformity is bizarre. You’re so white and seem to think because you have Othello, you’re diverse.

    • Jiral@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      An American saying he has never been to Europe, without saying he has never been to Europe.

      Barely 2/3 of the population of Zürich is even born in Switzerland. It is true however that most of the immigration is from the EU. But Zürich (and Switzerland in general) is rather the outlier here. Big European cities tend to be anything but ethnically homogenous, certainly not in Western Europe. What is however true is that Europeans don’t tend to think in skin colours but ethnic backgrounds, at least those who aren’t Nazis.

      • PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        David Sedaris has an interesting monologue about this.

        It’s called 6 to 8 black men. Definitely worth a listen. That one is about the Dutch.

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        11 hours ago

        Yeah we did. The helper of Santa claus called schmutzli (wich translates roughly to dirty) goes around town to beat up children. But that was back in the day.

      • FishFace@piefed.social
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        12 hours ago

        Americans tend to assume that any instance of a white person painting their face black is horrendous because their only cultural anchor for it is their horrendously racist minstrel shows and then get confused when people in other countries don’t follow suit.

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          Okay, but if Zwarte Piet is just supposed to be covered in coal then why did they also give him giant red lips?

          It’s a little bit disingenuous to imply that Americans doing blackface is racist, but European blackface is innocent and traditional. It’s not like the Dutch had never seen a black person when Zwarte Piet was created…

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            As far as I understand, Zwarte Piet started out as a depiction of a black person. But it wasn’t used, like minstrel shows were, to push hateful and limiting stereotypes of black people.

            I don’t think every American doing blackface must have been racist, but I think that given the cultural context in America, doing so will justifiably cause such massive offence that it can’t really be defended.

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            10 hours ago

            I don’t mean to say that all other blackface is innocent, that being a perfect counterexample.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Huh? The Swiss are Italian, French, German and Romansch speakers. They are also divided along Protestant and Catholic lines. Switzerland is far more diverse and divided than people care to realise. They even had a civil war because of this. What made them live in harmony altogether is because of the agreed power sharing after the conflict. Iirc, the governing parties must represent the four linguistic groups.

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    22 hours ago

    If it’s so great why didn’t you stay there?

    Oh you enjoy travel and are able to go where you please?

    That’s cool, thanks for the content.

  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    Directly near railways? No thank you. Also way too crowded. What kind of brag is that supposed to be? Just because something might be expensive (haven’t even checked) doesn’t mean it’s great…