• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    We cannot have a fair debate without dedicated fact-checkers that pause the candidates and refute the lies from Trump (sure, and Biden if he does). Anything less is just letting him continue his strategy of spewing falsehoods faster than they can be corrected.

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      Trump will just dismiss the fact-checkers as biased and continue.

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        This is why there should be no audience at such things and the mic should go utterly dead when they violate the rules and/or it’s not their turn.

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          In saner times we didn’t need a law that prohibits a felon from becoming president or need a cut-off switch because psychopaths weren’t even in presidential debates.

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          and they’ll say “OMG they’re censoring trump because they can’t handle the truth deep state lizard people!!!oneone”

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        You’re right, he will regardless. Time to stop making decisions based on what his illogical cult believes…

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        It’s very debatable if trump’s EO would have capped the price of Insulin or Epipens in a meaningful way - and its factually wrong that it was the same cap and legislation that Biden put into place.

        Trump’s EO meant that Federally Qualified Health Centers would have to offer Insulin and Epinephrine to “Low Income Individuals” without health insurance "at the discounted price paid by the FQHC grantee or sub-grantee under the 340B Prescription Drug Program” plus a “minimal” fee.

        From your own link, FQHCs already had a requirement to not charge anything to people in poverty, so “If ‘low income’ is defined as under 100% of poverty, this may not really change anything. Even if the income level is set somewhat higher, most patients likely would still have been protected by the sliding fee scale without this change”.

        This link, like your others, is from 2020. I don’t know how “low income” would actually have been defined since it wasn’t scheduled to come into place until Jan 22nd - during Biden’s administration.

        It’s true that Biden froze this - as others have mentioned in this thread, he put a 60 day freeze on all pending legislature when taking office, which is a fairly standard practice.

        Biden’s own Insulin cap was part of the Inflation Reduction Act, and capped the price of Insulin to $35 monthly for products covered by Medicare D.

        So yeah I concede that it’s an oversimplification to say that Trump did nothing and Biden did everything, but… the Insulin cap is Biden’s legislation. Trump did not cap Insulin or Epipen prices during his 4 years in office.

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        According to Bloomberg Law, “A regulatory pause is a common tradition among incoming presidents to ensure that the unfinished policies from the prior administration align with the new one.”

        The freeze ended March 22nd and the cap is in affect.

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          So Trump isn’t wrong then when he says Biden is taking credit for something he already did, is he.

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            Executive orders, like Trump’s insulin price cap, can easily be undone.

            Biden signed the IRA, which permanently capped insulin prices. So Trump is wrong when he says Biden “had NOTHING to do with it”.

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              Yes, it’s possible that Biden improved on Trump’s solution by making it an actual law rather than an EO.

              Either way, this is really just political posturing from both sides. Both of them are exaggerating their own achievements in order to dunk on their opponent when in reality, each of them just made incremental improvements.

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            Yes. Trump is lying again.

            The price cap on insulin passed by congress and signed by Biden is an actual price cap. The EO from Trump was not. It was words with no effect for most insulin users