• l0tusc0bra@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    Yeah, I’m pleasantly surprised. I wonder how the U.S would react to that though. Probably wouldn’t be thrilled at losing a potential instrument against China, but the sanctions machine sure doesn’t seem to work like it used to.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      3 months ago

      Amusingly, I suspect that US putting pressure on India over trade with Russia is precisely what drove in India to start realigning away from the west.

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        3 months ago

        Same- capitalism is reverting back to its old (and “honest”) roots. The west is basically cracking the whip and demanding the capitalists of the middlemen countries- like India, Mexico, Turkey, Hungary, etc… kill themselves and their capital, to lay themselves down as (what would also be largely ineffective) roadbumps in the way of the global south’s (of which they are included) development…

        The only thing the west has left, is violence. Same as always. They can install the worst sorts of cronies- blatant colonial governors like Milei, Marcos, and Zelensky- but even they are all on shaky ground; most of their people understand exactly what is going on, and at some point either the west is going to be wholly surpassed by the rest (sooner rather than later, though that’ll still take a while- fingers crossed though, hopefully it’ll be even sooner yet) or they’re going to have to jump the gun and start WW3.

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          3 months ago

          Yeah that is basically exactly what happened with Georgia, it’s ruling party are libs but the West was pretty demanding that they straight up suicide bomb themselves into Russia, so they had to take anti-western measures.

          • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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            3 months ago

            Pretty much. It’s pretty hilarious (if also terrifying, and sad)- western diplomats handlers are basically wandering across the world, looking for whoever’s willing to sign themselves up to take the unenviable position as the “next Zelensky…” whoever’s willing to take one for the team, with perhaps the possibility of getting a nice mansion in Miami or London at the end of it all… if they get out of their countries alive when it’s all over (easier said than done, as the Ukrainization process also requires cultivating and arming all sorts of fascist maniacs like the Banderites as a support base for this sort of blatant self-destruction), and if the west decides they have enough use, rather than backstabbing them once they become an inconvenience…

            They really have nothing better to offer. You can see it with the client-states, but you can also see it with their own domestic policies- they have nothing to offer their citizenry either (or rather, they do, but the contradictions are such that it’s essentially impossible without a significant change to the system). Only the most hopelessly compromised of countries, with the most deluded and cartoonishly corrupt of regimes in power will sign up for this, and even then - with the example of Ukraine in particular, they’d also have to have at least a bit of a death wish to boot.

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        3 months ago

        They act like a needy, abusive spouse on the world stage. No wonder Japan is looking for the door. I think it’s impossible now for a lot of decision makers globally to internally sell closer political/economic relations with the US. Why bet on a losing horse?