One time in high school we had an Army recruiter come in to speak to our class. After his presentation he said “any questions?” Rob raised his hand and said “I have a question: does napalm still stick to kids?” I recently talked to him (this was 40 years ago) and he didn’t remember doing this, but he’s proud of his younger self - as am I.
I’m curious about the response
Me too tbh.
Literally “any other questions?”
Army recruiter: “I’m a real man! I am a killing machine. I don’t do feelings like fear or love or cold. I fear no one and no thing… except questions”
You know shit gone very bad when even in Putin Russia we don’t do this.
It was invented by a secular socialist who envisioned it as a way of creating a common creed for native-born and immigrant citizens alike.
It’s… lost its way somewhat.
Lol id kill someone back then sooner than do that
Pledge to corporate same now. i don’t care about consequences. you can shove your funny pledges up your arses. I am here only for money
I was at a college American football game in Florida some time ago. It was upsetting to be asked to swear allegiance to something like every 15 minutes. Like calm down dudes I’m just being here being forced to watch a Handegg game.
I can’t cants the seventh inning stretch in American baseball. It’s like, hold on everybody we have to stop the game and be patriotic to the spaghetti monster real quick with this song or we can’t continue the game.
What does take me out to the ballgame have in it that’s patriotic?
It’s a verse from a song about a girl who is baseball crazy and instead of a normal date she wants to be taken to watch baseball. It’s just supposed to be a fun tradition.
Shame they don’t still do the original salute as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
Would have really driven home the kind of thinking that comes up with such things.
Yep, they might as well go all the way and also wear armbands.
Holy shit. That was definitely not something they admitted to doing. Amusing how the history books leave out these fun facts.
i love that it was replaced in 1942. it’s like they waited to see whether it was even necessary to change or maybe it would work out anyway.
I had a very new teacher in I think 6th grade. She had us do the pledge the first day of school, after almost forgetting, and then never again. After a couple days I was like “… Wait. Shit. It is weird we were doing that every day”. It had just seemed normal.
Thanks to that teacher for probably accidentally getting me to think about it.
I wonder if that teacher still teaches.
When I was in high school from 08-2012 basically no one stood up for the pledge. I went to an art school though so nationalism wasn’t really at all prevalent. Ironically though our mascot was a patriot.
The number of times I got in trouble for not standing during the pledge was crazy
Why do so many people think FREEDOM
is doing as you’re told?
Tumblr is the internet version of this kid
Lol definitely me in middle school and onward. Never got in trouble for it though which was neat after reading through this thread.
I didn’t either and the only shit I caught for it was from other students. Related- the best teacher I ever had before college was from my American Government and Politics class. She kept printouts of state law in her filing cabinet of the section that says you can’t force kids to say the pledge. She was happy to give them out to anyone whose teacher tried to force them.
It was probably more rare for kids to do the pledge, at least regularly, in my high school in the late 2000s/early 2010s, than for kids to not do it. Probably about half the class, or more, didn’t stand for the pledge regularly. Hell, I, then as now, counted myself as a patriot, if a critical one, and I didn’t stand most of the time. Though when I did I said the ORIGINAL 1942 PLEDGE, YOU FUCKING HEATHENS.
The pledge over the PA was just the “School is now starting” sound for us.
Though when I did I said the ORIGINAL
You mean with a Bellamy salute, or without the “under God”?
I looked up Bellamy Salute, and holy mother of fuck.
Without the “under God”
In the 70s we definitely said thd pledge and sang the national anthem. When we move to WI for 7th grade, they didn’t do it there.
It was miserable in elementary school when I lived in Texas. We had to do the pledge for both America AND Texas. It took ages.
What was the TX one?
In all my 28 years of life I’ve never heard of there being a Texas specific flag pledge.
Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.
Now I just want to divide Texas again
Dummies think we forgot they already gave up the panhandle?;!?!?
You could just give it back to Mexico
It is crazy how much the Texas flag is worshiped down there. They fly the damn thing everywhere. When I finally moved out of there I had a bit of a culture shock on how other states don’t fly their flags everywhere. I don’t even think most people know what their state flags look like. Except Texas. You can’t get away from it.
I’m a teacher and not only do I not make my kids do it (it’s illegal to make a student say the pledge if you didn’t know), I don’t do it myself because I think it’s fucking weird and inappropriate. My only rule is to remain quiet if you’re not saying the pledge, out of respect to people who do want to observe it.
Telling your normal students to respect their nationalist loser peers is a bad move. You should be subtly encouraging your students to bully anyone who says the pledge of allegiance
Disrespecting of anyone is shitty.
Celebrate individuality. Bullying is for terribly short sighted sorts that could use some education.
I don’t respect people who say it. Patriotism is disrespectful to everyone else in the world.
In my defense I learned not to do it from internet Europeans.
