• Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    24 hours ago

    As Wiktionary puts it:

    The word data is more often used as an uncountable noun with a singular verb than as a plural noun with singular datum.

    It’s like “hair”. You can hold a single ‘hair’, you can also hold three hairs. But if you’re looking at an entire mane, you ain’t counting, so it’s referred to as “hair” again.

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      9 hours ago

      Yeah, but for example, IEEE conference paper templates explicitly state “The word ‘data’ is plural, not singilar”. So if you use it with a singular verb you will receive this post in an email and you can only say thank you and change it.

        • tulliandar@lemmy.world
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          9 hours ago

          The noun I’m referring to is the word “data” not the data themselves. “Data data” is 2 words, “data” is one word. The word (singular) “data” is plural

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            7 hours ago

            In Latin, sure. But the word “datum” isn’t a part of English, so we have instead the uncountable noun “data” which is derived from the Latin.

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      22 hours ago

      The piece of data and the data overall suggest that…

      Over categorization is a lie that only causes more problems. Stop the forcing of categorizing things. Just let things exist.

  • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
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    21 hours ago

    Three whole hours and the descriptivists haven’t come by to tell us there are no rules to language. This might be a record.

    • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev
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      12 hours ago

      There definitely are rules to language, which are determined by how the language is actually used. The issue with prescriptivists is that they invent their own rules which often go against how the language is used, i.e. the rules are nonsense.

      Take the “less vs fewer” argument. Everyone happily uses ‘less’ in pretty much the same way for nearly a millennium, then some prescriptivist asswipe comes along and says they don’t like it so now there’s a rule. Prescriptivists spend the next couple of centuries yelling about their new rule and creaming themselves over how they’re now ‘better’ at the language than other people while everyone else just doesn’t give a fuck and continue to speak normally.

      In the end language is just a tool to communicate ideas. If you clearly understood someone but whine because they ignored your made up rules you’re the asshole.

  • LynneOfFlowers@midwest.social
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    23 hours ago

    I guess I tend to use data as a mass noun when referring to computer data (“there’s a lot of data on that drive”) and as a regular noun when referring to data in the scientific sense (“these data show xyz”)

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    1 day ago

    I’m kinda getting the urge to lick between this guy’s front teeth just to see what it feels/tastes like.