• _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works
    591·
    8 days ago

    Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

    Edit: at least they didn’t use Phillips screws

  • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    7 days ago

    Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      61·
      7 days ago

      It is a curious fact, and one to which no one knows quite how much importance to attach, that something like 85% of all known worlds in the Galaxy, be they primitive or highly advanced, have invented a drink called jynnan tonnyx, or gee-N’N-T’N-ix, or jinond-o-nicks, or any one of a thousand or more variations on the same phonetic theme. The drinks themselves are not the same, and vary between the Sivolvian ‘chinanto/mnigs’ which is ordinary water served at slightly above room temperature, and the Gagrakackan ‘tzjin-anthony-ks’ which kill cows at a hundred paces; and in fact the one common factor between all of them, beyond the fact that the names sound the same, is that they were all invented and named before the worlds concerned made contact with any other worlds. What can be made of this fact? It exists in total isolation. As far as any theory of structural linguistics is concerned it is right off the graph, and yet it persists. Old structural linguists get very angry when young structural linguists go on about it. Young structural linguists get deeply excited about it and stay up late at night convinced that they are very close to something of profound importance, and end up becoming old structural linguists before their time, getting very angry with the young ones. Structural linguistics is a bitterly divided and unhappy discipline, and a large number of its practitioners spend too many nights drowning their problems in Ouisghian Zodahs.

  • FringeTheory999@lemmy.world
    84·
    8 days ago

    Why wouldn’t they? It’s an efficient design, and aside from the whole force thing they seem to be working with the same physics that we are. Why wouldn’t they invent philips head screws?

    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
      9·
      7 days ago

      This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine - it’s designed purely for automation. That’s why it’s tapered, to allow power tools to slip out before they break. That’s good for automation in the *1930s (EDIT: I’ve realised that in a few years it will be the 30s again and maybe I shouldn’t leave this so ambiguous in light of that), not so good for hand tools or any modern tool with a torque limiter.

      You’re much better off with hex or torx, or even the square driver, which is much more tolerant of imperfect handheld tool usage.

      The only reason phillips is still used is because it’s ubiquitous, it’s very much a historical oddity. It’s okay for many tasks but unfortunately the slipping out behaviour can destroy the screws very quickly.

      https://www.ifixit.com/News/9903/bit-history-the-phillips

      I mean it’s conceivable they’d come up with something similar, and it would be weird to expect a props department to find different screw heads just to be lore accurate.

      Edit: Plus it’s common today, which means from a prop design standpoint it communicates the idea that it’s hand-built, because just about everyone has a phillips head screwdriver, so seeing it tells you it’s something you can work on. I think that’s the main reason it would be there. Jedi are supposed to make their own lightsabers.

      • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        8 days ago

        A good balled hex driver is such a joy to use. Somewhat align it with the screw, and you can use it at weird angle.

        • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
          3·
          8 days ago

          I prefer to only use them when I can’t get alignment. They’re far more likely to round out the head in my experience, but they have their uses.

          • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            7 days ago

            Maybe I didn’t use them enough yet, but I bought some Wiha balled hex driver and I haven’t stripped a screw yet, and I use cheap screws.

            I also had to dismantle my 3d printer hot end with a lot of weirdly placed screws and it wasn’t even an issue.

            • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
              2·
              7 days ago

              Fair enough, I’m talking about big H5 construction screws and impact drivers, so a different use case maybe. Also it turns out when ARRMA uses too much threadlock on their axle set screws you can strip them really easily, and I needed more expensive special hex drivers with tight tolerances to work with them.

      • _bcron@midwest.socialEnglish
        61·
        7 days ago

        Torx is cool and all but all the touted virtues such as less cam-out go out the window if you have to drive them in at wonky angles, like tight fitting spaces. If you gotta angle the driver it’s not gonna seat well at all, apt to jump and wear out your bit. And if your only T20 rolls away and falls under a deck, yuck, 10mm problems.

        Phillips has a place and that place is ‘a wonky place to hold a power drill’. That said I’m a huge fan of square head because it’s a happy medium between those two

        • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
          21·
          7 days ago

          Angled screws only work halfway well with Pozidriv or Torx, standard Phillips slip too.

          Btw, why is Torq-set or Tri-wing so uncommon? They seem the best mechanically.

          Edit: no way to change image size in markdown?

          Efitedit: why does this exist? Oval

        • felykiosa@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          7 days ago

          I have used torx in weird angle with less issue than Phillips . My heart is fully sold to torx and Allen keys ❤️

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      12·
      7 days ago

      Meh, it’s one of those things that’s going to be around forever. I would be absolutely unsurprised if crosshead screws were still a thing in 4800 ce.

      • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
        7·
        7 days ago

        You’re building a light saber.

        Do you:

        A. Weld everything

        Or

        B. Drill holes and thread the holes for a bolt

        I’m sure they have some kind of crazy riveting technology. Is she installing screws because she wants to be able to easily take apart her lightsaber if needed?

        • Kitathalla@lemy.lolEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I mean, supposedly some lightsabers were built in a cave. They probably used whatever was on hand, and I’m thinking screws are more common in rubbish strewn pits and rankor caves than welding machines.

          • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 days ago

            Screws maybe

            But you have to machine a hole in the metal for the screw to function

            You know how hard it would be to drill a hole for a screw in a cave with scrap parts and no power drill?

            All you need to crudely weld, probably as strong as a screw, is heat. Fire is easy in a cave.

            I’d wager they could melt some metal together before devising a cave drill press.

            We have no idea what metal or alloy it is. They could have an alloy that melts easily, but once hard, it adheres to other metals and practically unbreakable. Just find some scraps of that alloy to easily weld.

        • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
          1·
          7 days ago

          Republic era lightsabers used neither. They held themselves together kinda like jointing in woodwork.

          Also the image doesn’t show a lightsaber? It’s a bo-staff built out of literal scraps?

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          1·
          7 days ago

          That depends, is the person building it a DIY tinker, or a mass production factory worker? Because a tinkerer is absolutely going to want to open it up easily.