Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but I just wanna kinda rant a bit.

I’m not the only one that hates this, right?

An app can just do a “This App Does Not Allow Screenshots”? Like… wtf?

Like, its my phone, and some app can just decide to disable a fuction of my phone. It’s my phone and if I wanna take a screenshot, I’m taking a screenshot. I don’t care about whatever “security” the app developer wants.

Imagine if every online shopping app whether fast food or amazon, just used this to block you from taking a screenshot so you can’t save the records in case of a dispute.

Which android developer thought it was a good idea to let an app disable a function on your phone. Even iPhone doesn’t have this stupid concept.

Sorry for the rant.

Anyone wanna share your stories?

(P.S. I have a cheap secondary phone to take photos of the screen. “This App Does Not Allow Screenshots” my ass lmao, I’m taking the screenshot whether the app wants it or not.

  • glimse@lemmy.world
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    In this case, I think it’s protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you’re looking at bank statements, etc. I find that annoying, too, but I’m less annoyed by the reasoning in this case.

    Now if Google could explain why toggling wifi through Tasker requires root, I would LOVE to hear the reasoning…

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        The first two don’t bug me but dam, give me my 6 buttons back!! I hate these fat notification tray icons. And yes, fuck Google for making it take MORE clicks to toggle wifi/cellular than before.

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          Unless they changed something in Android 15, which I haven’t been able to try yet, I don’t think the separate WiFi / Mobile Data tiles were ever removed. At least they still exist on LineageOS 21 (Android 14), just hidden in the tile editor. You might want to check if you still have them there.

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              That’s probably your mobile connection? Are you translating or does an English android say “Internet”?

              What’s the symbol?

              There’s also an option you can turn on that allows you pulling the menu down from the right side of the top of the screen, and you get the whole menu. I tried linking but for some reason I haven’t been able to upload images with my new phones for some reason. And then pulling down from the left side will just bring down the normal menu.

              You can also reorganise the tiles so you have your most used in the quick bar.

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                It literally says “Internet” and is for both wifi and cellular data. You click it and the popup shows toggles for both along with available wifi networks and while I have organized the tiles so Internet is the first option, there is no option to separate the two. Airplane Mode is a separate tile

                Pixel 7 Pro with Android 15

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                  There seems to be additional settings though? I’m still on android 14 (oneui 6.1, had huawei up until last week or so). So perhaps they put Wifi and mobile data separately under that arrow?

                  Can you draw down different menus based on whether you draw from left or the right side of the top of the screen? (I had that in huawei as default for a long time now but had to enable it on this samsung)

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                    There are indeed additional settings when you drag down but none of them are separate WiFi and cellular. It was the same way before I updated to 15 on this phone. It’s definitely because it’s a Pixel

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      Now if Google could explain why toggling wifi through Tasker requires root, I would LOVE to hear the reasoning…

      tbf all hardware-functions require root permission by default.

      Linux does the same thing. If you want to access /dev/sda, it requires root.

      I could guess one of the ways it could interfere with security is that it would probably also allow the app to disable WiFi. If the app does that, it could incur costs as now data is being transmitted over mobile connectivity. Also, it would maybe allow the app to find your mobile-IP address, which could be used to geotrack you. But i don’t know, i’m just talking out of my ass here.

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      In this case, I think it’s protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you’re looking at bank statements, etc.

      I think with all the engineers at Google developing Android they could come up with a solution of how to discern whether the act of screenshot was triggered solely by the user, or an app on the phone. They are the ones in power of all the APIs that allow other apps to capture the screen content in the first place. Maybe I am simplifying it too much, but this seems as a bad excuse to me.

      Maybe it would be too hard of a solution since there’s so many ways third party apps could capture screen content (including for example the Android accessibility service which also allows apps to read content of the screen and even simulate screen touches and gestures which many automation apps make use of) that blocking the screenshot alltogether is by far the most feasible solution.

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        There is already a solution:

        Third-party apps, unless a user specifically go to settings and find that option, don’t have the permission known as “Draw Over Top” that’s required to do screen recordings/screenshots.

        So by default, a user is already safe from a malicious app trying to steal info. (That is, unless they just be an idiot and give the app “Draw Over Top” permission)

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          the permission known as “Draw Over Top” that’s required to do screen recordings/screenshots.

          That’s not exactly intuitive. I had no idea that permission would allow an app to take screenshots. The warnings given on the permission screen mention other risks, but not that one.

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            Well you are gonna be trusting the password manager anyways, since its literally storing all your passwords. If you trust Bitwarden to store all your passwords, then you can trust it to not abuse the “Draw Over Top” permission.

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        For me and my family, I think the best solution would be to leave it as-is but with a way to lift the restrictions for power users that doesn’t involve root access. Something akin to enabling developer mode without having to buy a specific rootable phone

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      They changed it the other day where airplane mode doesn’t require root. That one’s nice for me.

      Never mind that shortcuts on iOS has been able to do that simple task from its inception.

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      Third-party apps, unless a user specifically go to settings and find that option, don’t have the permission known as “Draw Over Top” that’s required to do screen recordings/screenshots.

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        Fair enough, though experience with my unsavvy family makes me think a lot of people will do whatever an app tells them to do

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      Ok but why is my browser doing this in incognito mode? Incognito mode isn’t a banking app. It’s me not wanting my browser to save my Facebook login info or history.

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        The target use case for incognito mode is to prevent the device from saving your activity during the browsing session through things like cookies and history. To that end, incognito also blocks it to prevent other apps from saving your activity through screen recordings or screenshots.