I wash my cast iron with normal dish soap and steel wool, and if I’m too lazy, I put it in the dishwasher. I’ve been doing this for 20 years. I don’t “season” it. It’s a pan, no more, no less. The main advantage is that you don’t need to worry about scratching the shit out of it.
Needs a tiny little bit more fat than a non-stick if you want to make an omelette.
Same here, though i don’t use steel wool and i do season it every now and then
The pan handles it like a champI know you’re a troll but the idea of cooking on a dish soap infused cast iron is filthy lol
I’m not a troll. But the amount of magical thinking around cast iron amuses me to no end.
“dish soap infused” lol. Tell me, are your kitchen knives “infused” with soap, too?
Lol I’m not religious about it or anything, but it’s porous unlike other cooking materials, so yeah, I don’t put soap on it
What are your cutting boards made of?
I also try not to use much if any soap there too, because, porous wood
To each their own my friend, you do you. Not trying to get into a fued over soap preferences lol
Yeah, soap doesn’t hurt a fucking thing, If I just cooked with a seed oil or bacon or something I’d be inclined just to let it burn off, But if I cooked noodles or pasta or garlic or anything fragrant on there, I’d soap and scrub the piss out of it. I just make sure to throw it back on the fire and get it past 212 if it’s been wet.
Yeah he’s a panoisseur. I wash mine with soap too lol. But I use the lemon scented shit so my soap infused food is always citrusy fresh.
I bet I’d get this joke if I had ever used a dishwasher in my life
¯\(ツ)/¯ wouldn’t kill it. Just scrub any flakes off and re-season. The abuse they can take is almost unreasonable.
You could leave it outside in the dirt for 5 years and still just give it a lye bath then reseason it to work like new
So, this is somewhat of an irksome idea to me. My stainless steel pans would also be just fine buried in dirt for years, and you could just scrub them with heavy steel wool and or toss them in your dishwasher with no problem. Likely the same for ceramic. This isn’t the flex that most cast iron folks think it is. Note that I have a couple very nice cast iron pans that I love, but they certainly are more of a pain to use. I’ve never cracked a steel pan, but I have tried to rinse a cast too quickly and it was gone for good.
Preach!
I’ve seen a video where someone did just this. Blew my freaking mind.
Unseasonably mad
I am in flavor of this.
/s I am indeed unreasonably mad.
Not that you put the cast iron in the dishwasher (enjoy your rust), but the fact that you can actually fit the pan in your dishwasher. I recently spent $350 on a portable dishwasher and your iron skillet is bigger than that. I bought that thing to NOT have to scrub dishes. Thanks for reminding me that I STILL have to scrub pots and pans!
The obsession with cast iron like it is some kind of magic ritual is honestly really weird. After you cook with it, wash it with water and dry it with some paper towels, that’s it, no need to make it more complicated than it really is.
If things are sticking to your pan, use more oil in your pan; with enough oil, you can cook on a rock and make it nonstick.
Just wash it with dish soap like everything else, use a soft scrubber like everything else.
If you have an actual polymer layer, it won’t be harmed.
Dry it off, throw it on the burner. Get it hot, give it a touch of oil, and store it.
In all fairness by the looks of the carbon buildup on the outside this skillet is due to be reseasoned. I doubt the dishwasher will do much to help; this thing needs a lye bath or electrolysis at this point.
I just stripped my 20+ year-old 10" lodge because the carbon buildup was flaking on the inside. The pan is better than new now as the rough finish has worn considerably (though it isn’t glass smooth). I have a lot of fond memories of meals made in this skillet and plan on using it for the rest of my life even though I can afford and own arguably better quality cookware these days.
You… hate cast iron? Of all things people could hate, cast iron is the choice here. Mmaight.
Cast iron has a weird cult following. It’s like the jahovas witnesses of cookware
I don’t like using it because of the maintenance and manual cleaning, but I do use it because of the iron rich food it makes, and the longevity of the cookware.
Also I heard Teflon is literally freaking poison for you, like one of the worst things to consume. And pots and pans always tend to flake Teflon after a while, from general use. So we got rid of everything Teflon.
I don’t know how true it is but it feels good. Doing some manual labor isn’t a bad thing either.
I used to think so, then I just started using them on the reg and it turns out to be super easy.
It’s just a pan.
Ugh they’re so gross.
I threw my cast iron away about a year ago. Just couldn’t get the hang of it, probably a me problem. Moved to a stainless steel, and my goodness, the crust I get on meats is unparalleled.
Girl I’m with you. It feels like they’re never really clean!
Exactly. It feels like they just ooze dirty oil no matter how much you wipe them.
Maybe a cast iron skillet killed his family.
Cast iron skillets don’t kill people, people kill people.
It’s not a cast iron skillet problem, it’s a mental health problem.
Cast iron skillets sure do make it easier though.
Why do you hate cast iron?
It feels super greasy and filthy, and everything you cook sticks to it. Give me stainless steel any day.
Interesting. Mine doesn’t and I only have problems with sticking if I walk away too long. I gave a stainless pan away. To each their own! Thanks for the answer.
You have problems with cast iron sticking but you like stainless steel? Stainless steel is probably the most non stick material you can use. I can’t stand the stuff.
That’s just a dirty pan. Actual cast iron seasoning isn’t sticky or dirty because it has no impurities from the food, it’s actually polymerized with the cast iron and it should look make the pan look black and glassy. I wash mine with Dawn soap and hand dry it, and it makes Teflon look like a joke. I can heat it without any butter or oil, drop in a glob of egg yolk, and it’ll slide like it’s skating on Astroglide. You’re having a skill issue and you need to get good.
I wash mine with Dawn soap and hand dry it,
Yeah, I think the big hangup for a lot of people is that detergents used to contain lye which would react with the steel. No longer the case. Folks will seriously refuse to clean their pans which is gross AF.
dawn literally has lye in it
From what I can see, it’s used to balance the pH. So I assume a small amount.
it’s fucking lye, doesn’t take much
What exactly is your argument here? I use Dawn; it doesn’t appear to affect my cast iron pan. Many people online use it to clean their cast iron with no ill effects.
I mean, they use the stuff to clean off ducks after oil spills. I suspect whatever concentration it has is not high enough to have any caustic effects.
So clearly it does take “much.”
Does this also apply to the caustic and corrosive ingredients in a soda?
It’s phosphoric acid, doesn’t make much, yet it’s safe to drink. See how fucking moronic that argument is you muppet?
React with the steel… in the cast iron? I’m confused
Steel is like 98% iron. Sorry for the mistake.
But cast iron doesn’t contain steel, it contains iron and carbon
What do you think carbon steel is made from?
Cast iron and steel are largely similar materials, cast iron just has the carbon precipitated out of solution instead of trapped in a crystalline structure
good lord. steel is iron and carbon, just not so much carbon it becomes brittle and called cast iron
cast iron is basically steel, but has it’s own name because it’s brittle. roughly between half a percent to 3 percent carbon (among other things) is the base of many steels. “cast iron” is about 4 percent carbon and pretty much no ductility
It is a myth that you can’t use dish detergent on cast iron. If it feels greasy and filthy, it is greasy and filfthy.
The truth behind the “no soap” myth is that we used to use lye-based soap for dishwashing. Lye does, indeed, break down seasoning. But we use surfactant-based detergents now, rather than actual soap. Detergents break down oils which are necessary for rust prevention, but they don’t damage seasoning. Just wipe them down with the thinnest layer of high temp oil before storing them, and you’re good to go.
Your boomer parents/grandparents couldn’t wash their cast iron with dish “soap”. You can.
You can wash Cast Iron all you like, I wouldn’t suggest the dishwasher, just don’t use soap, scrape with a plastic paint scrapper under hot water, heat until smoking, rub some oil on it, let cool. Easy peasy. After knowing we’re all poisoning ourselves with the nonstick coating and have been for decades, the Cast Iron is a great nonstick alternative.
Use “soap” if you want. Modern dishwashing liquid doesn’t have lye in it. It’s the lye from old school rendered soap that damages the seasoning.
Don’t use anything with an abrasive more than the rough side of a sponge, and even with that, don’t rub super hard or in the same place for too long.
This thread is full of people claiming that dish soap doesn’t contain lye, but the most popular dish soap I’m aware of, Dawn, contains lye and that’s easily found in a two second Google search.
Interesting. Sodium hydroxide.
Well, while I don’t use Dawn, I do use dishwashing liquid, whatever happens to be in the house, and I’ve never had a bit of trouble with it.
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Teflon itself isn’t poison. The entire point of teflon is that it’s so chemically unreactive that nothing can even bind to it on a molecular level.
The problem with Teflon is that manufacturing it uses a lot of actually toxic chemicals incidental to making the Teflon bind to the metal of a pan and because it’s so non-reactive and very brittle, general use and any disposal of it will result in Teflon molecules just floating around in the environment unable to be broken down by anything.
It is non-stick if the seasoning is right, but often it’s not smooth enough off the shelf.
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They key with cast iron is using enough fat, which is generally more than you’d use with other cookware. High heat just burns the fat and/or the food, ruining your meal and making cleanup more difficult.
What cast iron is really good at in terms of heat is retaining it. There’s enough mass that you have to preheat the pan for longer, but once it’s hot, it stays at a pretty stable temperature when you add your ingredients. It doesn’t get hot spots as severly, either, especially if preheated for a good long time at a relatively low heat.
A tiny bit of water unsticks them.
Yeah cast iron, even with a good seasoning, will never match a Teflon coating. It’s pretty good, but you will need to cook some bacon in the pan before the eggs to make them not stick.
Eggs with no oil will stick in a “non-stick” pan, too.
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A bit of olive oil in a mister doesn’t add enough calories to matter.
That’s just an abuse of olive oil. Olive oil is a finishing oil when you want the flavor. Use a neutral oil like avocado.
When you’re cutting out vegetable oils to lose weight, you’re doing it wrong.
Your body needs them.What it doesn’t need is animal fat, and what you can safely reduce to lose weight are simple carbohydrates.
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Meanwhile, I’m like “huh, maybe you should learn how to cook, but you do your stuff, that’s your own business”.
Lol I like cast iron cookware, but you do whatever with what’s yours as long as you leave mine alone.
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Ruins the patina, or something
Yep, can also cause rust
No wash cast iron in dishwasher, bad!
Dishwasher detergent is super aggressive, because it has to clean with minimal mechanical force, therefore many materials should not be washed in the dishwasher or they will be damaged.
it’s just a pan
You can take care of your pans anyway you want. But it’s telling when people treat neglect like it’s an ethic.
I just reseasoned my 12” Lodge today! A lot of nasty smells coming out as I took off layers and layers of old seasoning with barkeeper’s friend. But now it has a non sticky, glassy smooth new sunflower oil seasoning. Very slick!
Does anyone know how to avoid having bacon foul up the seasoning? Seems like it always reacts chemically and incorporates proteins into the seasoning which make it nasty and dry and flaky rather than smooth and glassy.
Store bought modern bacon is loaded with sugars and that is what is causing the issues. I’ve found that the older the seasoning the lesser the impact. Still, just scrub off the stuck on bits with a chain mail and some hot water with a mild dish detergent then do a quick post-season on the stove and it’s like it never happened.
Try washing it.
So long as you’re not using the lye-based soaps your grandparents used to wash their dishes, you’re fine. Dishwashing detergent does not damage seasoning.
That’s what led me to redoing the seasoning today. I washed up the grease with a few drops of Dawn and the pan came out with large areas of brown/white and dry/powdery rather than black and shiny.
I definitely have had the pan have a really strong seasoning that maintains a hard, glossy black finish even after washing with soap before. I’m hoping the current seasoning holds up a bit better.
I think maybe sometimes I burn the seasoning from cooking with too high heat? I really love to put a good sear on a burger or a steak and I love how cast iron is like a deep cycle battery that can store and release a large amount of heat into a piece of food.
I think maybe sometimes I burn the seasoning from cooking with too high heat?
That will happen around 450-500F. One method of stripping seasoning is to run it through an oven self-cleaning cycle.
Ahhh I probably get it over 500 for a big sear. Kinda crazy that my stove’s burner can get there even on medium.
If you want it that high, I would suggest using wok seasoning methods instead of cast iron. Basically, you “blue” the pan (develop a black iron oxide layer) by holding it at 550F for an hour or so. You’ll burn off the oil every time you use it, but the black oxide layer is relatively non-stick. This will work better with carbon steel than cast iron.
Alternatively, you might consider an even heavier pan, to hold a 400-450F temperature even longer.
The burner will get well over a thousand. Without something cooling it off, a pan can overheat even on low.
Scrub it clean with soap, then put the pan on a burner to heat dry it. At the end, rub a very thin layer of fat on it. I use clarified butter. It’s a cumulative process, you won’t see all the benefits of nonstick all at once.
That butter is going rancid on the surface.
