An organizer speaks about collective power in the world of real estate capital.
I would honestly strike if my tenants unionised lmao
No chance of that happening here tho. I specifically even rent rooms to the immigrants who know fuck all about the local law and won’t play any funny games
I’ve seen outright fascist shit on Lemmy but even then this has the highest ratio of downvote to upvote, NO ONE LIKES LANDLORDS
Piece–of–shit landlord doesn’t want repercussions for their piece–of–shit choices on rental agreements. If landlords make profits, they’re leeches on the less fortunate. Maybe look into co-opting the property… or just kill yourself and make the whole society better you fucking loser.
I’m just so over people like you. If we lived in the Neolithic age you would have been stoned to death for not contributing to society.
I’d use sharp stuff, but otherwise yes
And what does you striking even mean?? You’re a landlord, if you strike nothing really changes
Found the boot licking dirt bag fucking piece of shit
Sounds like someone is angry, prolly rentoid
Mao had the right idea about landlords because they all act like you.
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Another landleech proud of fucking over his fellow man. Get Luigi’d.
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Fucking over your fellow man would be an argument. I guess you don’t need to read to sign a deed.
Good for you for doubling down on being a boot licking piece of shit, it only proves my statement true.
Just keep owning it, you fucking bigoted slumlord.
Have you tried consulting your anger issues with a therapist?
I genuinely wish you well and I am worried about you
Kill yourself You fucking dirt bag.
You really need some kind of pills sweetie
Maybe it’s something childhood related. Can you remember what happened in your primary school?
Imagine going online to brag about preying upon people who don’t know their rights…what a shitbag
Imagine being a rentoid
Hey all, I’m an absolutely massive wanker, just wanted to share!
Edit: oof, check that post history for more.
It’s just life tbh, it will never be fair. The trick is to get yourself in the winners group
Seeking negative attention on obscure social media platforms isnt winning, Emmie.
Get help.
You’ve got to be trolling.
Look at their post history, this is what they do
Yeah, they’re trolling. Their bait is just a bit too obvious.
It isn’t my fault that I have to argue with misinformed people every 15 minutes or so
I can assure you that I do rent rooms to immigrants and thus vote for libs because my business depends on the most amount of them flocking to capital
And also I get lowest taxes in this biz like 8% a year when wagies pay 30% or so. It’s comfortable as heck
About what? Were you born yesterday?
“You can be a sheep, or a wolf” - Hardcore Emmie
Unironically this tho, how do you think the world works? Read: https://cock.li/
Funny enough, reality isn’t usually reduced to two extreme options. Simple thinking like that appeals to simple minds tho.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
The notion that we must be sheep or wolves completely ignores the potential to cooperate in order to create value or defend common rights. Without cooperation, economic value could not be created. Yet that’s inconvenient when one wants to justify shitty behavior.
I’m literally crying laughing reading these responses, holy shit people took the bait XD
10/10 trolling, well done you monster
People here really hate landlords. Doesn’t matter if they’re joking or not.
What does a strike look like? Everyone moves out? It’s not so easy to just stop renting.
Pay rent into a communal escrow.
I think an all out strike as in, not paying rent, is a very serious and aggressive option that you’d only exercise in extreme circumstances.
Unionising provides a lot of power to tenants long before going that far.
For example, as a group you can afford legal representation.
If enough people stop paying rent, then they have to negotiate with them as a group. They can’t evict everyone.
Uhmm … yea, you CAN evict everyone. It’s called an eviction. Don’t pay rent, get evicted. Don’t move out when evicted, get trespassed and thrown out by the Sheriff. A renters union won’t do shit. Laws need to be changed to scale property tax so the more properties you own the more taxes you pay.
It’s kinda the same way that the Trump administration is handling it’s business. If you ignore the law and you have enough firepower to enforce your viewpoint, then the laws are up to negotiation. If thousands of people go on rent strike, they can’t evict all those people. There aren’t enough cops to throw all these people out in the street.
It can cost landlords a lot of money. You can evict everyone but then you need to actually go through the process with them, one by one. The union can also collectively call attention from the municipality, file official complaints, etc.
If you rent strike and the landlord evicts eveyone, then they need to ready all the units all at once with none of the units generating any income. Assuming they have maintenance staff, they don’t have enough to handle that kind of volume. They’ll need to contract it out or deal with no income as units get ready one by one. The only downside (upside for them) is that they might be able to raise the rents on new tenants if demand is high enough.
Depends on the state laws honestly. Some states will just have cops haul you out.
Okay, but are the cops going to rehab the units after they haul the evicted tenants out? Are they going to seize all the tenants property and have it all catalogued and picked up? Plus if every unit is now a crime scene, that’s longer those units will sit empty, generating no income while all the evidence is gathered and then the crime scene cleanup guys show up.
Seeing where our gov’t going now, I’d expect all property to be seized and the tenants getting deported.
Okay, property is seized and tenants are deported, but that all takes time. I mean, I guess the “free market will fix it” by some enterprising and shitty American starting a company that assists landlords in cleaning up after a rent strike.
Yes where I live, landlords can simply take the property to municipal bins.
If you stop paying, it’s your problem, if everyone stops paying, it’s the landlords problem
It depends. I don’t know how many rentals are mortgaged vs owned. I suspect they can evict you faster than they run out of cash.
Most states have eviction laws limiting their power, and often part of a tenant union is a lawyer to stall
Hi, Texas checking in. What’s… “limited power”?
Their power in Texas is huge. Dont pay rent, the landlord can seize ANY non essential possessions of the tenant. Evictions take as little as 45 days.
One more reason why Texas is a shithole.
They call it the lone star state because everyone is the star of their own movie about rugged individualism, or so I’ve heard.
No, people misunderstand.
It’s a rating, not a slogan.
Only because you can’t select zero
The lone star is the rating
Okay so you know how you lose electricity in the winter?
I think I follow… Is my landlord Ted Cruz? Rent is my landlord’s daughters’ fault???
*does not apply to texas
Shit. All we have are all these guns, gallons of stupid, and no spines. Is that what you mean by being without power?
I suppose you could have a landlord-specific-union. If I own and rent out 3 houses then I’d just evict all 3. If I owned 50 houses, I could just obfuscate true ownership through various LLCs. If you didn’t know all my properties, you couldn’t form any meaningful union against me. Apartment complex would be fucked though.
I work for a company that aggregates public data for…reasons, and I can tell you it takes just 1-2 queries to find every LLC, property, etc. associated to a person.
Rent strikes exist and have worked. The realities of evicting everyone is slow and costly legal process that can be disrupted in various ways. The point is to make it so costly that ceding to the tenant union’s demands become the better choice. There is a book Abolish Rent that goes into some tenet union victories and lessons can be learned from them.
Stop paying, same as any other boycott? I’ve done this thought experiment before, and while I think tenant unions are possible (and very much needed), they definitely aren’t as simple to implement as labor unions.
To start, people would need to live more minimalistically so that “just moving out” can at least be a (last resort) tool in the union’s toolbox. This makes tenant unions antithetical to consumerism, a quality not shared by labor unions.
To really thrive, tenant unions would also require people to actively know and interact a lot more with their neighbors, again fighting the trend of increasing social isolation and complacency caused largely by corporate (read: for-profit) social media.
Personally, I want to see a sharp increase in co-living (a.k.a communal living). That would greatly lower the buy-in threshold for tenant unions to really take off, not to mention all the other mental, social, financial, and environmental benefits.
100 people can pool their money together and hire a really good lawyer. 1,000 people could destroy a property management company. $20/month per household would add up fast.
Besides what other people already answered here: Solidarity will also go a long way. Workers in the old days faced the same dilemma: When they go on strike, will they lose their job? A lot of them did. Solidarity saved them and made the movement work.
In the context of housing, solidarity can take the form of organized people in a town agreeing upfront: “If folks from one house get evicted, they can move in with us.” Of course this requires a lot of trust—just like the person in the article says. And whenever it should come to this, it will be costly and inconvenient, even burdensome, for everyone involved. Just like filling a strike fund from already low wages was. In the end it worked.
Without solidarity, we are defenseless.
Why is it called a strike? Why do we call it that and band together? If you know, you’ll know what all unions should be doing in this Age of Terror
My last landlord didnt fix a water leak for 9 months. The only reason they came to fix it is because i withheld rent and threatened to call the city after our bathroom closet was infested with black mold and my roommates wall on the other side slid off onto the floor.
Oh and btw they still had the balls to send someone to serve me with a warning to evict if i didnt pay in full within 3 days lmfao
Where I live it takes like…30-60 days to actually evict someone by following proper protocol. And that’s if they don’t fight it in court and whatnot.
What’d you do with the served papers? I hope wiped with them.
I paid them, didnt have the time or money to fight them. I just moved out asap. There was a lot of other stuff going on at the time and i’m sure they knew i didnt have the resources to dispute it
I fantasized about forming a tenant’s union when I was still renting but the people I talked to about it were completely unfamiliar with the concept and thought it was stupid so I gave up. Now the company I used to rent from has bought up pretty much all the apartment complexes in the area and people who rent from them are complaining about immoral and illegal stuff they’re doing but won’t consider actually doing anything about it. Anti union sentiment is deep in America and I don’t have any hope for the American public to do anything to help themselves.
Very bold of them to assume that corporations won’t immediately use force to bust these unions and make any participants homeless and unrentable as an example.
Yes that is always a risk. That’s why you need MORE unionization.
Seattle has a tenant’s union, though I’m not sure it’s what this article is referring to. https://tenantsunion.org/rights/seattle-tenant-resources