Useful, but incomplete.
As the circle enlarges, the system approaches four T-intersections. What I want to know is: at what size circle to people lose their minds and become unable to comprehend how T-intersections work.
Fair play to people confused about multi-lane roundabouts though.
When I have a Car D behind me, it’s because they overestimate my car’s acceleration capabilities.
Wheres the fighter jet?
E. Pink car turned turn signal on before entering the circle, keeps turn signal on all the way around the circle, thus invalidating any method of informing other drivers of which exit they intend to use. Car E deserves rapid unplanned orthodontics.
Signals are helpful indicators, but I rarely commit until I see someone’s front wheel change direction.
You’re probably already watching people’s wheels without realising. It’s the first real tell.
ITT: People road raging over imaginary traffic.
Drivers seem to love complaining about drivers
Alternative scenario: C starts entering, A decides to FUCKING FLOOR IT, slams into C
I hate getting stuck behind the “I won’t move until there are no cars anywhere on the planet” drivers.
I’m always D
etermined to keep my head up high, but it gets hard when I’m deep in a
cult
Not everybody is cut out to drive (i.e. to operate dangerous heavy machinery in a fast-changing environment with others depending on you handling the situation correctly). The problem is when we structure our societies requiring everyone to do so to participate.
requiring everyone to do so to participate.
Bus, taxi, bike, walk, whatever.
I vehemently disagree that everyone has a ‘right’ to have a license, as so many argue.
My country is full of donkeys driving cars
Damn, how’d you train a donkey to drive?
Who said anything about training?
My favorite is when the pink car stops to allow car ‘A’ to go 🙃
Some larger roundabouts work that way. Most (in)famously the arc de triomphe in Paris.
Where I live there are two of these
Bus drivers have entered the chat.
Oh God I love that its just so hulaeuosly dumb when it happens
I just put my hands in the air and yell at them
“if I randomly stop in the middle of the road so another car can get in, the car right behind me probably won’t hit me”
Cyclist here.
Someone did that for me, so I tried to rush across the street to not hold up traffic.
Woke up a few weeks later in physical rehab, not remembering anything because of the TBI. Evidently I was in the hospital for about three weeks. No recollection!
I will take predictable drivers over ‘nice’ drivers any day.
THIS! FFS
I mean, nothing here is wrong but I have rarely had C being my primary issue when dealing with roundabouts. Idiots randomly entering the circle with no regard to other cars, THAT I’ve encountered quite frequently…
Biggest problem I encounter is people failing to signal their exit
So I end up being C because I yield to a bunch of bozos who didn’t communicate they were’t going to come my way
Ah yes, car E driven by Leeeerrroooooyyyy Jenkins
San Francisco Rush shortcut.
To the moooooooooooon
The only real problem I regularly encounter is on two lane roundabouts.
If you want to take the first exit you need to enter in the passenger side lane.
If you want to take any exit after the second you need to enter in the driver’s side lane.
If you enter in the passenger side lane, you must take the first or second exit. Taking any exit after the second from the “outside” lane is gonna cause an accident.
I see this happen a few times a year. It’s so common that most drivers foresee it.
Yeah the solution there is spiral roundabouts with hard barriers at critical points.
That’s because Americans don’t know how to use them, once you live in a place where people use them OPs picture becomes your issue and you never see yours.
Americans have a hard time driving, period. They can’t “keep right unless passing”, they can’t understand 4-way stops, they can’t understand traffic circles, and so much more. So frustrating and dangerous here.
Yesterday, I had to drive for at least 15 miles behind a transfer truck doing 45 because an idiot decided to cruise in the passing lane right beside it. I see it at least once a week.
What’s so hard about understanding the left lane is THE PASSING LANE. FOR PASSING CARS IN THE RIGHT LANE?!
It’s completely F’d up. In the region I live in there are a lot of 3-lane highways (6 lanes total). People “cruise” in the #2 lane and treat it like the slow lane which forces faster traffic left and right around them in the #1 and #3 lanes sometimes going 5 under the limit, often confounded by a #1 lane camper going the speed limit or just a few over. Nobody obeys any sort of rule or has a clue they aren’t being the asshole. They refuse to keep right or yield to faster traffic.
I know that „there must be a German word for that“ is became a meme, with lot of fake words being thrown around, but I’m not even joking: There’s a German word for that lol ✨Mittelspurschleicher✨
I was just thinking yesterday that if Trump actually wanted to do good he could convert all these people he’s hiring for ICE into some kind of traffic enforcement agency and send all the dumbasses that can’t drive properly to el salvador. This thought happened while I was stuck in a drive through that some moron had blocked the exit of by pulling up too far.
1 lane each way highways solve this issue by preventing there being a passing lane except on straight aways when there is no oncoming traffic.
I have to agree.
I’m old, and most roads were 2 lane when I was a child. These problem didn’t exist then.
Many dont understand four way stop signs either
I think that’s location specific, I’ve lived in a few different places in the US that had roundabouts, although I’ve always called em rotaries in the northeast.
My city (US) used to have one that was signed all wrong, so cars already inside the circle would have to yield to the ones entering. Naturally this led to congestion instead of flowing traffic. Also it was way too close to a tangential road so that made things even worse because the backed up traffic on that side then affected cars that weren’t even going to the circle.
Fortunately they ripped that shit out and redesigned the entire intersection.
Or badly designed ones with a combo of yield and stop signs that effectively prevent the people with the stop sign from ever proceeding
Hit them
C is yielding to a pedestrian, but carbrain D cannot fathom yielding to anything smaller than their car.
There’s no pedestrian in the image.
Cars are bad enough as it is that we don’t have to imagine more problems with them.
Pedestrian would be safer crossing somewhere with a pedestrian crossing
A pedestrian would cross between C and D, or even behind D.
Were this a 2 lane roundabout, car d would be changing lanes to bypass car c, nearly striking that pedestrian
Pedestrian crossing without traffic lights at a 2 lane roundabout entry? That’s just murderous design.
Traffic lights on a roundabout kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it? might as well signalize the intersection
Tho not preferable, there’s cases where it can work. The roundabout layout still provides a better (easier) entry to the crossroads, the traffic lights can create a “cadence”. Technically not a roundabout anymore, it does use some of it’s qualities.
Anyhow, pedestrian crossings on 2 lanes right before any kind of intersection without any lights is way more dangerous than a roundabout with lights.
Try a 3 lane roundabout entry. I cross that shit twice a day on my commute to work every fucking day. Other options are very far out of the way as to make them non-viable.
I always wave on traffic so that I may cross when it is safe. Sometimes, a car stops to let me through, and refuses to move. I won’t go, because I can’t see the other two lanes past the car that is stopped. Four times in the past year, that car was rear ended by a massive fuckoff truck. For whatever reason, they get pissed off at me, not the guy that rear ended them.
Does turning your head/body to face away from that car that refuses to move help much?
I only once encountered it in Czechia near Plzen with 2 lanes. Think it took me 5 minutes before I could/dared. Can’t imagine it with 3. Crazy dangerous situation. Stay safe!
It took me three attempts to parse
We’re this a 2 lane roundabout,
Your mistake is even harder to type than the correct ‘Were’!
Nope, same level of difficulty since the swipe keyboard autocorrect added the unneeded apostrophe.
Hate it when that happens!
Autocorrect fucks me on were we’re all the time. I bet that’s what happened.
Yup. Swipe keyboard.
yall need real keyboards.
I love roundabouts as a driver and as a pedestrian. I do admit that the double laned ones can feel like an utter cluster at times though
I have The Perfect Round-A-Bout for you.
It’s insane. It’s also brilliant.
Yeah I’m a fan.
My city has no traffic lights. Roundabouts everywhere. It’s not a particularly big city.
There are some problems but in general I think everyone gets where they’re going a lot quicker.
you aught to try the kind that’s 3 lanes going to 5 different places and a tram running through the middle!
(this was the most dangerous intersection in my city for a while… they’ve added traffic lights… i do also very much love roundabouts)
Gotta be aggressive for those
