• Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    This is why I appreciated The Shield. The show opens with cop on cop murder to cover up corruption and only spirals downward from there.

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    15 days ago

    I really like the scenes where they just drop all the subtlety and violently assault the suspect, even in an interrogation room.

    That and the tough talk referencing the Patriot Act. “You’re a terrorist, you don’t have rights! You’re not getting a lawyer, you’re getting a C-130 to Gitmo!”

    In both cases you’re supposed to cheer it on, seemingly.

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      That was the mind-boggling thing about 24, in hindsight. Two months after 9/11, before Guantanamo Bay was even established, before anybody outside the US military had any idea how we were treating Afghan prisoners, one of the biggest TV shows in the country started hammering in the message that torture worked and torturers were heroes.

      And people will still, even now, claim the US military doesn’t deploy propaganda weapons against American citizens.

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        https://youtu.be/YPiL3-CYzWk

        The Propaganda around torture is so infuriating. There is this myth that good men torture and evil wilts before them giving out secrets. But good men can’t be broken under torture because they are just sooooo heroic. Reality is cruel men torture because they can. Truth information? Nah.

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          I remember a Fresh Air interview with a colonel from army intelligence who was very clear that torture didn’t work, forming a relationship involving mutual respect does.

  • notarobot@lemmy.zip
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    15 days ago

    I’m not saying you are wrong. But aren’t you reading too much into it? I find shows where the characters are always perfect to be boring and predictable

    Also, I think that there is a clue that this opinions is biased: you can use the same shows to say the opposite “in these shows they always show the cops breaking the law. They are anti cop propaganda”

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      It’s also interesting to include Luther in there. Luther is the embodiment of an anti-hero, and is constantly getting into trouble for disregarding due process. He’s certainly not lauded as the hero in the end.

      I’m not familiar with too many of the other shows portrayed, that just stood out to me. I don’t doubt that there are some instances where “copaganda” plays into it, but I think it’s more likely that due process is kind of boring to show on screen, it’s just more entertaining to have the main character do whatever it takes to solve the case. And really good cop shows explore the negatives of doing so just as much as any supposed positives.

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    Luther went to jail because he broke the law. Reddington was a criminal not a cop. The Strike Team all went to jail because Mackey sold them out to save himself. Gordon resisted breaking the law until the government actively turned Gotham into a prison.

    These are not great examples of a real problem.

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    I also found it interesting how the internal affairs officers are always villains. Hell even in Psych. The show about the fake Psychic Detective Internal Affairs was the bad guys.

    Interesting that isn’t it? The people whose job is it to police the police are the bad guys?

  • dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    In the US the police have won multiple court cases (including cases heard by SCOTUS) that the police are under no obligation to protect members of the public except when the danger is created by the cops.

    In my opinion depicting the cops as even kind of competent and interested in solving crimes is copaganda.