• anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I had my energy company remove their LVTC smart meter this week after they started using it to shut off our condenser unit during our 100 degree days

    The fact that it exists at all is bad enough, but they were doing this at a time when our AC was already malfunctioning due to low refrigerant. On the day they first shut it off, our house reached 94 degrees.

    The program that the previous owner signed up for that enabled them to do this gave them a fucking two dollar a month discount.

    I use a smart thermostat to optimize my home conditioning - having a second meter fucking with my schedule ends up making us all miserable. Energy providers need to stop fucking around and just build out their infrastructure to handle worst case peak loads, and enable customers to install solar to reduce peak loading to begin with.

    The other thing that kills me about this is that our provider administers our city’s solar electric subsidy program themselves. When i had them come out to give us a quote, they inflated their price by more than 100% because they knew what our electricity bill was. All they did was take our average monthly bill and multiplied it by the repayment period. I could have been providing them more energy to the grid at their peak load if they hadn’t tried scamming me.

    FUCK private energy providers.

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      1 year ago

      How tf can a meter shut of an applience? Did you also have smart breakers from them?

      Anyway absolutely ridiculous

      • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It’s separate from the main meter and connected directly at the condenser unit.

        It monitors power draw and acts as a relay when the provider sends a shutoff signal. The thermostat thinks the system is still going, and the fans still push air through the vents, but the coils aren’t being cooled anymore so the air gets hot and musty.

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          11 months ago

          Smart grids could solve some of our problems but this is obviously an abuse of technology.

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      1 year ago

      Peak load of households is not during peak solar power generation. Households installing pv isn’t a solution to what you described.

      Today, you could also use a battery to buy power during mid day and use it in the evening when you need it the most.

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Could someone please help me save some power and just post the image with the 5tits so I don’t need to have it regenerated de novo?

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    1 year ago

    When I’m told there’s power issues and to conserve power I drop my AC to 60 and leave all my lights on. Only way for them to fix the grid is to break it.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, that thing that nobody wanted? Everybody has to have it. Fuck corporations and capitalism.

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      1 year ago

      Just like screens in cars, and MASSIVE trucks. We don’t want this. Well, some dumbass Americans do, but intelligent people don’t need a 32 ton 6 wheel drive pickup to haul jr to soccer.

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        You underestimate the number of people you wouldn’t class as intelligent. If no one wanted massive trucks, they would have disappeared off the market within a couple of years because they wouldn’t sell. They’re ridiculous, inefficient hulks that basically no one really needs but they sell, so they continue being made.

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        1 year ago

        Do you have any data to support this is actually the case? I see this all the time but absolutely zero evidence but a 2015 Axios survey with no methodology or dataset. Nearly every article cites this one industry group with 3 questions that clearly aren’t exclusive categorical and could be picked apart by a high school student.

        I ask this question nearly every time I see this comment and in 5 years I have not found a single person who can actually cite where this came from or a complete explanation of even hope they got to that conclusion.

        The truck owners I know, myself included, use them all the time for towing and like the added utility having the bed as as secondary feature.

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          Let me express it to you with some numbers… The US is ~3.81 million square miles in size.

          The F150 has sold 8.810 million units in the US in the last 10 years.

          There are ~ 2.3 F150s fewer than 10 years old for every square mile in this country.

          There is no way the majority of those trucks are going to job sites, or hauling junk, or pulling a trailer, just look around. That’s not even all trucks. Thats just one model, from one brand, for a single 10 yr period.

          These trucks are primarily sold as a vanity vehicle, and a minivan alternative, and that’s what I think when I see one.

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          The truck owners I know, myself included, use them all the time for towing and like the added utility having the bed as as secondary feature.

          Then you put it beside a truck from 30 years ago that’s a quarter the overall size but has the same bed capacity and towing power along with much better visibility instead of not being able to see the child you’re about to run over. And then you understand what people mean when they say massive trucks - giant ridiculously unnecessary things that are all about being a status symbol and dodging regulations rather than practicality.

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            Absolutely 100% incorrect on towing. The 95 top f150 towed about 7700 compared to 13500 today. That’s an f350 in 95. It’ll also fit a family of 4 comparable to a full size sedan eliminating any need of a secondary vehicle. The old f150/1500s were miserable in the back.

            As for the safety I find the argument disingenuous not based on reality. Roughly 160 kids were killed in 23 with the EU27. It was 220 in the US. Much of that could be correlated to traffic density as well.

            Country / Region Est. Fatalities/Year Child Pop. (0–14) Fatalities per Million

            United States ~225 ~61 million ~3.7 United Kingdom ~22 ~11.5 million ~1.9 Canada ~12 ~6 million ~2.0 Australia ~11 ~4.8 million ~2.3 Germany ~20 ~11 million ~1.8 France ~18 ~11 million ~1.6 Japan ~18 ~15 million ~1.2 India ~3,000 (est.) ~360 million ~8.3 Brazil ~450 ~50 million ~9.0 European Union (EU-27) ~140–160 ~72 million ~2.0–2.2

            I think we should offer incentives for manufacturers to start reducing size and weight, but things you are saying here aren’t really based off of any data nor was it what I was asking.

            I just wish I could find one person to show me what they are referencing when they repeat that seemingly false fact.

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    1 year ago

    Worse is Google that insists on shoving a terrible AI-based result in your face every time you do a search, with no way to turn it off.

    I’m not telling these systems to generate images of cow-like girls, but I’m getting AI shoved in my face all the time whether I want it or not. (I don’t).

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    1 prompt is avg 1Wh of electricity -> typical AC runs avg 1,500 W = 2.4 seconds of AC per prompt.

    Energy capacity is really not a problem first world countries should face. We have this solved and you’re just taking the bait of blaming normal dudes using miniscule amounts of power while billionaires fly private jets for afternoon getaways.

    • salmoura@lemmy.eco.br
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      1 year ago

      A 12000 BTUs inverter split system at peak capacity requires less than 1500 W to run. After it reaches equilibrium it drops the power requirement significantly.

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    1 year ago

    Also they can build nuclear power generators for the data centers but never for the residential power grid.