It’s not an age thing, it’s a class thing. This is just a psyop to direct anger away from the Epstein class.
No war, but class war.
Absolutely. Note that the only boomers who are able to hoard money are the ones who have it to hoard.
The rest of them stay in the workforce, delaying future generations
Not their fault if they have to support themselves.
Maybe if boomers hadnt gone whole hog on consumerism and saved more, instead of thier $20/day coffee habit…
Not to mention the avocado sandwiches.
If only they had voted for the candidates who wanted a strong social safety net, rather than the ones that wanted to fuck everyone who isn’t part of the 0.1%, maybe they wouldn’t have to worry now…
Even with all the non-ultra rich (500 mil and up) boomers combined, the ultra rich have way more money and are not paying thier fair share. Kill the ultra rich, save the poor.
More than that, the “wealth” Boomers possess is largely tied up in their homes (inflated assets benefiting from artificially low property taxes) and their 401ks (just riding the wave of inflated equities post-COVID). It’s not like they’re stealing your salaries or your health care benefits or larding you up with college debt, as all of these are functions of corporate finance profiteering not personal retirement accounts.
What we’re really seeing is an inflationary wave created by corporate excess consumption that Boomers are able to ride a little easier than their Millennial and GenA peers.
Kill the ultra rich, save the poor.
We have such enormous surpluses, but we insist on squandering them to… build another data center nobody wants? Finance another round of bombing runs on Tehran and Caracas? Shove a few thousand more migrants into concentration camps?
That said, we’ve got a lot of Boomers with brainworms who are convinced this is good public policy. We’ve also got a bunch of Joe Rogan Millennials and Alphas who feel the same way. I don’t know how to change that. Certainly not while billionaires own and operate the national media.
No disagreement here.
artificially low property taxes
I disagree with this one…
California laws freeze property taxes for residents over the age of 55. The end result is that new homebuyers can pay multiples of what their senior neighbors cough up, because the housing value has been locked in to the pre-'00s price booms. They’re not the only state with these very elderly-friendly property tax rules.
Ok, I didn’t have that law, but my main problem with that law is that it is limited to people over 55.
Problem is property tax valuation ends up mixing up people just using their house as a place to live, and folks using it as a financial instrument. So people can get hosed on the property tax despite having no actionable wealth derived from their residence.
Problem is property tax valuation ends up mixing up people just using their house as a place to live, and folks using it as a financial instrument.
Most tax districts have a “homestead exemption” which is limited to one home per homeowner. You can game this (spouses and children having property declared in their names, for instance). But - broadly speaking - the law does accommodate this exception.
The bigger problem is that our financial sector is so bloated with unspent cash and so hungry for ROI that our tax system isn’t a serious deterrent to landlordism and financialization of real estate.
My dad lost all his assets to cancer bills, as did my father in law, and my husband’s family lost the house built by their grandfather due to having to settle the nursing home debt after my mother in law died.
I do not expect any inheritance from my mom, since I want her to use it all to take care of herself.
We really really need a single payer healthcare system. Those last dozen years of a person’s life are where the medical industrial complex makes obscene bank.
I can not begin to explain the level of my contempt for networks like FoxNews…
It confounds me that my father can be such a bigot and against social reform after being left destitute after my step mom passed following seven years of cancer treatment before passing way. I think he wants everyone else to suffer like he does instead of wanting there to be less suffering. I used to be really close to him but I refuse to have a relationship with him anymore.
I grew up on WIC and now my mom is conservative and against all safety nets and I’m like, bitch please I remember damn well picking out things that were on that WIC list every week at the store, don’t act like we got by OK on our own. Not to mention her not working and on disability for the past couple decades… so independent we are.
I’m no boomer, but I know how they feel. Who can tell when the next crash will hit, and mega inflation will strike. There is just no real way to know you have enough saved. Unless you are like elon or such. And gieven all that. People are holding on to their money because they may have to help keep their kids afloat. It isn’t the boomers making the problem, it’s the mega rich scraping every dime they can put of the hands of everyone they can so that they can be secure in their wealth. The bokmers are just a biproduct of that brainwashing.
It isn’t the boomers making the problem
They voted like shit for decades. That voting created the environment we are now dealing with.
It’s the ultra-wealthy AND boomer’s fault.
They were brainwashed starting at a very young age. I doubt most of us here could have seen through it back then.
They were bought. They grew up in a world of plenty. They were sold the idea that it will always be this way as long as they vote conservative. Fox News (and less blatant media) came and pacified them by giving them excuses for being greedy, which enabled the worst wealthy actors to hoard their shit and codify the greed into the both culture and law. They were used to create a system that is fucked and now are confused when the system they built sucks and the world of plenty is being shown to just be a short term golden age.
I wish I could confidently say I’d do better, but probably not. We are products of the world we live in and are shaped by what we see and hear.
I dunno, my limited sample size says the boomers were raised by parents who lived through WWII, so they were raised frugal. Save as much as you can types. Then yes, things were eventually good… the 70’s had high inflation I think. So now they hold on to whaterevr they have. But yeah, can’t say I would have done better.
100%, I don’t think there’s a single thing that I would do differently than them on an individual level. Housing was cheap (compared to today). School was cheap (compared to today). Healthcare costs were manageable (again, relative). Being frugal and attempting to have enough retirement to make it through old age is not a vice, that is just sound money management.
The actual sin is making it harder for everyone else coming behind them.
- Make housing more expensive by restricting zoning (I already purchased my house, so I need to protect my investment from things that would degrade the value).
- Make school more expensive by not properly scaling public higher education (I am already out of school, so why should we invest more in public schools).
- Make unions weak (no collective action means I personally might earn more, though workers overall will earn less).
- Make a single payer healthcare system a political impossibility (the system is working for me (because I have $$), I might have to wait in line with all the poors if they can also access the same level of healthcare).
Basically they enshittified government and culture before it was cool, creating stratification layers to benefit themselves when the available alternatives would have been better for society and subsequent generations.
Yeah, they were taught froma young age to look out for themselves financially. And in theory that the gov would take care of those who couldn’t. Well the last part was a lie, and the first part was really so that when the rich did it, people would accept it. Kind of like how in books, the cannibles always make new people eat human meat so they are now one of them. Lol.
Elder millennial here. My boomer and silent generation parents died and left me nothing ( I had to take care of my mom for ten years)as a result of 2008. They were lifelong liberals as were their parents. The pedophile capitalist class will get that money. All generations of people have been voting for these fascist neoliberals for decades. After Regan both parties started gleefully destroying the middle class, It will all be funneled to the top one way or another. Larry fink has openly stated that the blackrock vultures plan to take savings and 401k money
My boomer and silent generation parents died >and left me nothing ( I had to take care of my >mom for ten years)
Did you lose working hours to senior care? This is exactly why I say to my husband “screw inheritance, as long as we don’t go broke taking care of them, we’ll have done alright”.
I was working full time and raising my son. The stress of it broke me inside and the situation traumatized everyone in our household. We all tried to help out but taking care of someone with early onset Alzheimer’s is soul destroying and there’s really no help at all for families. Every possibility of help is obstructed with an impossible beurocratic maze of obstructions. It was a nightmare and I did feel resentment but at the same time my mom worked very hard in her life so she was absolutely a victim in our broken system. It’s going to get much much worse under all these medicade cuts. Unfortunately I couldn’t afford to take any time off because I live in an area that everyone in the house has to work overtime to make ends meet. It was a nightmare and it’s a very long sad story about a corrupt system, corrupt broken social workers and a broken society. It’s going to get so much worse under this administration I can’t even fathom the tragedy we’re about to face
I am so sorry you went through that. I’ve seen a couple acquaintances go through a similar journey being the caretaker of a parent with Alzheimer’s, and even with a support network it seems arduous and heartbreaking. Going through it alone with other dependents sounds harrowing.
Our society is broken and it’s getting much worse very fast
Billionaires are collecting everything. Stop stoking the distaste for boomers into the scapegoat they need to take the focus off the capital class. Grandpa with a couple million in assets, mostly in his home, isn’t “hording”, he’s securing himself into his end of life. Elon Musk has no such excuse, he just wants to gratify his unrestrained desire to go to Mars even if it means leaving earth on life support to do it.
What an absurd thing to say in a world where individuals have the wealth of thousands, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of millionaires. Good ol’ Fortune spinning the generational conflict to prevent class war. Ma and Pa down at the old folks home pinching what pennies they have are not the ones creating a wealth hoarding problem. They are responding reasonably to a system that would watch them die in the streets while simultaneously not allowing them to choose the time of their own death.
You’re right and I’m glad you’re pointing this out. That said…
Boomers are still selfish assholes who won’t get out of the way and release their positions in government office and owning multiple properties that they bought for a song while voting against housing initiatives that would “change the character” of their neighborhoods while young people face increasing costs of living. The rich, plus the selfish.
spinning the generational conflict to prevent class war
Sorry, I don’t judge entire groups based on the behavior of a few. I know, it’s weird, but I didn’t do it when it was hip to judge people by skin tone and I’m not doing it now that it’s all the rage to use the super-duper scientific method of what year someone was born.
You know what, you’re right. There are classes of people who can’t control their outcomes (skin color, sexual orientation, gender identity), and then there are those who can’t control what decade they were born. That’s exactly the same thing.
Boomers can’t help stealing from their offspring because they were born at a time where that was wired-in. There’s nothing they can do to improve their behavior. I’m so glad you corrected me for being a fucking bigot. All this time that I thought I was criticizing greed and power has actually been a misguided adventure into bigotry.
Do boomers who are white hold most of the wealth? Doesn’t matter! They were born in a time when you couldn’t control that. What the fuck. What a shit response. Defend people who lord over you or pretend to fight back as you lord over us. You’re exposed. Shut up. Go away.
Sorry, how is your post different from someone claiming [insert racial group] is prone to greed and you’re simply trying to criticize greed? It’s basically a Mad Libs of that old fashioned bigotry.
Also, I’m confused by your first paragraph there. It’s such a weird thing to acknowledge that birth year is a fixed/ascribed trait then immediately launch into a prejudicial rant based on said ascribed trait. Even weirder to pause mid rant to claim you aren’t a bigot for inexorably linking an ascribed trait to a achieved (greed) state, which is basically the literal definition of bigotry. Or, is “That’s exactly the same thing” sarcasm and you’re implying people do choose when they’re born? Very confusing.
Or, is … sarcasm
You’re quick. Fuck everyone in my mother’s generation who won’t step aside and let younger people hold office, buy houses (she lives alone in a three bedroom house), or start careers (a former CEO came out of retirement and accepted a low-level position part-time where my partner works just so he’d have “something to do” ten hours per week). They are suppressing everyone under them.
sarcasm and you’re implying people do choose when they’re born?
What a weird thing to say.
You know, this new wave of age based bigotry does come with a silver lining. You see, an old school race based bigot can go their whole lives hating on [insert constructed racial group]. They can, on their death bed, look out the window and find someone to hate on. It’s a life-long obsession. But you age based bigots are going to wake up one day in a world without booomers. Then what will you do with all your irrational hate?
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Honestly a valid concern but it’s a cultural problem.
We don’t live gracefully and we don’t die gracefully. Why are they living so long? For what?
Well, in my observation/opinion it is because all of their prime years were stolen(tricked/finagled) from them.
“Hey let me get most of that” is a wild proposition. Not just most but the significant majority. Let me get 5/7 of that? That’s the ask under our current system. 5 out of 7 days laboring for someone else. You get two for haircuts, laundry, connecting with your kids etc. etc. etc. so basically all of your time from 20 to 65 or whatever “retirement” age is now.
Im gonna tell you right now I am 46 and my best years are behind me. By the time I am 65…. Lmao.
Don’t get me wrong, I lift, have abs, beautiful SO, kids…. Nevertheless years were blown on someone else shit. I’m not doing that. Anyway I digress. My point is that I am very fortunate and have eschewed the grind mentality. I’d rather live it up and die at 68 living humble than go to 85 while my body falls into ruin.
It’s really changed my outlook on healthcare too. Why are we keeping an 80 year old alive with hospital stays every 4 months? That’s insane. Chained to an oxygen tank. Terrified of death living in regret and disappointment. Nothing you know even applies anymore. Can’t even work the tv. It’s crazy. Im good off all that.
Just live and go when it’s our time. That’s my plan.
“Why don’t old(er than me) people simply die and stop being leeches?” is a wild take.
Do you apply that logic to other people who take more from society than they (currently) contribute?
“Why are they living so long” lol As if boomers are choosing to live long lives strictly to spite younger generations. How long you live is not really a choice. One could suicide, but if you’re in good health and living a reasonably happy life, why would you, or anyone?. Is the poster suggesting we go Soylent Green and all die at age 30 or w/e?
The best part is we all know the “If you’re over X you should just die” line will “coincidentally” “logically” rise with their age as their definition of “too old to live” changes as they hit that number.
A 10 year old thinks a 30 year old is old. At 20, it’s 50. At 30, it’s 70. etc.
Actually, you’re thinking of Logan’s Run. Soylent Green turned any dead person into food, but you could live to old age. Logan’s Run would kill you off the year you turn 30. 🤓
Oof, thanks!
