• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      If you’re a project manager in IT, and you don’t have a technical background, you can fuck right off.

      It’s absolutely a tech job if it’s being done right.

      • foggy@lemmy.world
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        “okay and our client specifically said make it pop. James can you do that for us by end of day?”

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        100%. My company is suffering from this so bad. Also bad are the overly ambitious managers in tech. These guys are simply dangerous and will cut the talent out of a BU just to save 10% and get that promotion.

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      Say you don’t work in tech without saying you don’t work in tech.

      I’m a dev. Love them or hate them, PMs are vital to success of projects.

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        Good PMs are vital to the success of projects, and bad PMs are vital to their failure.

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          I got a project now that doesn’t have one and you can definitely see it. Stuff is being missed left and right. All the different companies aren’t talking together. A few months back I just straight up recommended that they bring a PM to the lead scientist and they weren’t interested. So far I would say they have made a total of 90k mistakes on a 850k project.

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        Of the 30-50 PMs I’ve worked with in my career, I’ve had 2 actively contribute to the success of my team’s work. I’ve had a handful scuttle projects because they couldn’t manage the clients, the rest just kind of hung out and collected a massive paycheck.

        The highest performing teams I’ve been on had the lead developer play that role.

        The role is vital, the PM it’s self is not.

        • hightrix@lemmy.world
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          Completely agreed that the role is vital. For me, my PM is a life saver as my workload is simply too much to also handle PM duties.

          That’s said, I also agree that there are many useless PMs. But a good one is worth their weight in gold.

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        I’ve worked in tech for 20 years and can count the number of Project Managers I’ve met on one hand. It varies a lot depending on the company.