CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

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    Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence. Walz is an adorable teddy bear with claws.

    It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen, and we’ll all laugh about how the old guy from Minnesota made the dude wearing eyeliner get scared of giving trans school kids free lunches.

    Edit: I can’t wait!

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      He’s ok with pushing outright lies, and it’s hard to keep up with all the right wing lies that are floating around. I hope Walz just starts calling them the liars they are instead of avoiding ‘name calling’.

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        Vance isn’t much of a public speaker, and, up against a debate opponent like Walz (who is a great public speaker), Vance is pretty much fucked. He won’t have much of a defense but to pivot when confronted, and Walz is both clever and persistent. He’s also extremely charming, which Vance extremely isn’t, lol.

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          You’re making me look forward to it. Kinda. Let’s say I’m looking forward to the instant replays by the Daily Show.

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            Well, it’ll probably be more policy-focused than anything with Trump, which is always just a clown show because Trump only knows how to be a clown. Vance will, at least, try to debate Walz, but it will quickly just be a timed trading of canned campaign jabs. How each plays it will be interesting to see, and - personally - I think it will be fascinating for 3 reasons:

            1. again, Vance’s relative terribleness vs Walz’s very goodness will be awesome to watch. Walz will kick Vance’s ass easily

            2. more than that, this debate will be far more substantive than the last debate, which was, basically, Kamala baiting Trump into crazy-shouting one crazy lie after another while Kamala just laughed and laughed.

            3. Tim Walz is, quite possibly, the most lovable guy to ever exist. JD Vance is, quite possibly, a new form of venerial disease.

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      Vance is like a Dollar Store version of Trump. He looks like the same product, he tells the same lies, but the parts aren’t all there. He’s a grifter but he’s not in the same league as The Donald, he even looks like he’s in pain when he lies.

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        The fucked up part is that, since you can’t get cheaper than Trump, the knockoff is actually more expensive. Worse, Vance is also (somehow), dumber, poorer, less-popular, and more insecure. He’s also - unbelievably- worse with interactions with the public and with public speaking.

        And we’re about to find out how bad he is at debate against a real politician.

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          Vance at least looks like an actual human, the Toupee’s human disguise was created by a sentient pile of excrement that only once glanced at a human from a distance.

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      Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence.

      But what is Vance?

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      It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen

      When you wrestle the pig, you both get muddy but only the pig likes it.

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        Helps when the pig is both extremely popular already, and the pig’s opponent is… lol… well, JD Vance lmao

        Seriously, the guy lost a debate against the opening staff at a donut shop. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    Oh sure, tell the guy who basically said “We’ll make up whatever facts we need to to get our point across!” when the whole pet eating debacle was debunked that he won’t be fact checked… What could go wrong!?

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    No holds barred free for all. I like it. This is going to be an amazing debate. Midwest against I have no idea what the hell Vance is.

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      what the hell Vance is

      A couch-fucking weirdo, from what I’ve heard.

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      “No holds barred” is still an honest fight.

      “No facts checked” favors the opponent who has no real principles or policy to defend. It’s like walking in the ring shotgun and the refs being like okay y’all on your own.

      It’s gonna be an absolute shit show and basically be a demonstration on how well can a liar Vance lie without being too obvious about being a liar. Best we can hope is that Walz will make it very obvious.

      Hopefully there will be a second or 2 to slip in something of more substance while we wipe the shit off our faces.

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        Vance and Trump keep making the same lies even after they’re debunked, so Walz could make a bingo card ahead of time.

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        Here is how you win. Prepare for lies. Do a quick fact check during each round and then punch him in the face with the truth. Laugh at him regularly for being a lying clown. Treat Vance with no respect.

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      Midwest against I have no idea what the hell Vance is.

      Ohio is also considered the Midwest.

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    Fucking cowards. We saw how quickly fascists crumble when you fact check them. Why won’t CBS want to do that?

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      Because they want to help the fascist.

      Something about ten dudes at a diner table with an eleventh who is a nazi.

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      The mainstream medias job is to safeguard corporate America; not the population.

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    Extremists (hint: not Tim Walz) will be able to just spout lies the whole time, and rational, honest candidates: (hint: not JD Vance) will have to either let them get away with complete bullshit assertions, or spend part of their time doing the job of the moderators… This is why no one believes in Journalism these days…

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    Ya this is a dumb move by CBS because it compromises the legitimacy of the debate… But I know Tim Walz is going to wipe the floor with this couch fucker.

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      It compromises the legitimacy of CBS. How can they be okay with blatant lies being aspired on its network?

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    *CBS is announcing that it will allow the Couchfucker to Gish Gallop.

    Fixed that title for you.

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      Yeah, and a side effect of refuting gosh gallop, if you even can, is that you end up wasting your time on the floor instead of discussing your points.

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      I’m glad Amanda is for Democracy… But why is she (apparently) for embedding a landscape video inside her portrait video that doesn’t fit on my screen, so now it’s scaled down to 1/9th my TV’s viewable area?

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        The whole intro part didn’t add anything anyway, so it just made the viewing experience worse for no reason. That was frustrating. Still, every debate should be like that one.

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      I’m not looking forward to the day that Colorado loses Kyle but I am certainly looking forward to the day that he gets to moderate a presidential debate. Kyle is amazing.

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    Waltz: Vance I heard you fuck couches for fun.

    Vance: NO I DON’T

    Waltz: That’s not proof. If you’re gonna fact check me you gotta provide proof! Clearly you fucked couches!

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      Walz would be way more subtle than that.

      hey. So glad you got off the damn couch.

      And

      Oh. Meant to ask you. How was the tour of Ashley Furniture? Find any attractive couches?

      Edit:

      didja get any good recipes from RFK?

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    So Walz will try to find the lies and Vance will claim everything is a lie since they can’t stop him?

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        You see, one party lies with every breath. So they are not supposed to fact check “each other”…

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        By completely ignoring any lies and speaking only to the issues.

        If Walz maintains possession of the ball, then Vance can’t win.