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Steve Jobs was evil af
Seriously though. Fuck that guy.
I’m pretty sure his wife already did that.
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Nah, he fucked himself with that. Had a highly treatable form of cancer and chose to feed it a sugary fruit-only diet instead of going to a doctor.
Holy shit TIL, I had no clue this dude died because he was basically an anti-vaxxer/alternative medicine guy.
Jobs also believed that his commitment to vegan diets meant his body was flushed of mucus – and that it meant he was free from body odor, so he didn’t need to wear deodorant or shower regularly. Unsurprisingly, the book quotes former coworkers saying that he was very, very wrong. … One of his go-to stress relievers during Apple’s early days was soaking his bare feet in the company toilets. (link)
his doctors advised him to seek surgery as soon as possible. Instead, he delayed the procedure for nine months and attempted to treat himself with alternative medicine. This fateful decision may have quickened Steve Jobs’ death — when he still could’ve been saved. (link)
To his credit though, I believe he did admit he fucked up before he died. Which is certainly a lot better than the antivaxers of today.
It’s more accurate to say that Steve Jobs died because of the distraction of the fruitarian diet.
hey guys- when you say “fuck that guy” I can say that his wife did that, cause they probably had sex
hey guys! you know who fucked steve jobs? his wife, probably! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
Why, exactly? Genuinely asking. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m no Apple fan, and he was absolutely an insufferable douchebag to nearly everyone he knew; and was a verifiable self-righteous fuckwit who Darwin’d himself out of existence by choosing woo-woo bullshit over medicine for a very treatable cancer.
Evil, though, I think might be a stretch – Elon, Thiel, Vance, Trump, Murdoch, the Sackler family, the Koch brothers, etc. all excellent contenders for being truly evil – but afaik Jobs was just a dickhead with an ego the size of a blimp, and I think we ought not dilute that term with just your run-of-the-mill dickheads. Unless you know something I don’t about him.
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This told me nothing I didn’t already know. Like I said, he was a dickhead, to almost every single person in his personal and professional life. But evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo – you have to be actively striving to make life worse for at least a few hundred people or more.
A dickhead and a shitty father, sure, I’m not defending his actions in the slightest. But “evil” would require him to have done something much worse than just treat his kid and the people in his immediate orbit like shit. Just my opinion.
evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo
That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.
I’ve never understood why it’s just Apple that seems to get the blame for using Foxconn, they’re estimated to make 40% of all consumer electronics. Nintendo uses them for all their consoles (since the GameCube), Sony use them for their hardware (TVs, the PlayStation, etc.), MS for the Xbox, Amazon for the Kindles, Google for the Pixels, etc.
I don’t want this to sound like whataboutism, but I’ve just literally never understood why people seemingly overlook all the other companies using them to place the blame solely on Apple.
I tend to agree. Being a narcissistic asshole isn’t the same as being evil. In the first case, it means doing bad things because you are self centered and have no regard for other people. The bad things aren’t done to hurt others, just to in a self serving way. Being evil requires an intent to do harm.
“Genuinely asking”
Their “repair” program is nothing but a scam to nudge you into buying a new Apple product to replace the broken one with overinflated repair prices and bullshit excuses like that.
Also it works exactly as Steve Jobs intended.
When they’re not actively trying to make it harder to self repair, that is.
“Some of the parts were missing”
You motherfuckers put the damn thing together in the first place!
Parts missing? I don’t believe this at all. A phone is basically a single board, screen, battery, lenses, audio bits. Everything is so jammed in that there’s no room to think parts are missing. No tech would make this mistake and Apple doesn’t benefit from generating a hostile customer experience. This is made up.
Sorry details may be fake, but I do believe an apple employee would pull some shot because policy dictates they sell new equipment over fixing old equipment.
Every apple fanboy I talk to gushes about how amazing the genius bar is, helping them when they get their iPhone stuck in their ass.
But every casual user who has different problems beyond getting an iPhone stuck in their ass seems to get the same response: “Buy the next version”.
I dunno though I’m forced to use the apple products from work.
I was a tech in a store and covered a fee on a replacement device because it was the second time the guy had to come to us. I gave a young woman (student) a free laptop because she’d had a super long repair history during my last week in that role. Apple conditions their retail employees to treat customers well and it’s something I missed getting to do for people forever after.
When I moved to the mothership, the only mantra was always about doing right by our customers. When I was interviewing for that gig, I asked one of the interviewers what he considered challenging about the job and he said that (coming from Microsoft to Apple) the company had an “insane” focus on its customers. It really is a top-down attitude. The company may be high sniffing their own farts, but they believe they’re uniquely focused on doing the right thing.
I used to work for Apple. I don’t believe the missing parts story because as you said, how would that even happen. But, if any parts have been replaced, especially the home buttons / finger print reader, they will refuse to fix, and I never understand why. So that may be what happened.
Also Jobs was 100% behind this stuff. It’s so annoying when people treat him like he was some tech god. He was a twat.
The refusal is likely tied to liability, in that they see any aftermarket parts or OoW repairs as a potential failure point and fear the customer may blame them for it. It wouldn’t even matter if the quality of work or parts is as good or better. There’s also another factor of trying to oversimplify any repairs/service to allow them to eventually hire unqualified/uneducated ‘techs’ for things who don’t have a clue what’s going on.
It’s only relatively recently that Apple have allowed non-apple staff to repair iPhones so by definition everyone is unskilled because there’s no way to be skilled unless you work for Apple.
Apple wouldn’t replace my wife’s phone battery because they “detected water damage”. I did it myself through their DIY system, which is more than a bit ridiculous because they only set it up after they got sued and they are salty about it.
Honestly it was fun receiving a huge crate that looked like something from a spy movie with an expensive rig to push down on the phone screen just right to adhere the glue on the new screen, as if pushing on it with my hand wouldn’t do. I had fun, and it was cheaper than it would be to get someone else to do it, but it was absolutely ridiculous.
Oh also there certainly wasn’t any water damage I could see, and I don’t remember her having any particular encounters with water like dropping it in a pool or something, and it was working perfectly fine except for the battery getting old.
Jobs was an idiot. Chose homeopathic crap instead of medicine. I don’t give him credit for anything if he’s that dumb.
He’s free to do that, sure, but anyone doing so is safe to be labeled “moron” by everyone else.
Unless I’ve heard a messed up version of events he will stay in the “idiots that were not beneficial to humans in any way” trash can.
He had one of the few treatable forms of pancreatic cancer and skipped the only known treatment in favour of homeopathic.
If he had “normal” pancreatic cancer I’d maybe give him some slack. It’s just not treatable. But what he had was probably survivable had he treated it immediately.
This is almost exactly what happened to me except they told me my phone had mold growing inside it from the shattered screen I wanted replaced.
The “mold” was pocket lint from waiting a month to get it fixed.
Bitch actually said right to my face that my phone no longer works so let’s get you a new one. I powered on the phone right there and he started backpedaling and grifting ‘oh but it won’t be long tho’. So I went home and still use it with the shattered screen because fuck them.
and I’m guessing you will still continue to use apple products and buy another iphone… apple users are such sheep
I’d love nothing more than to move back to android, but I’m a cheap bastard.
I’m going to drive this til the wheels fall off
i feel ya there bud, im still rockin ancient technology here too
My work got me an Macbook M3. After two weeks of dicking around with it, I went back to my Thinkpad. I don’t get it at all. I thought at least the hardware would be great, but I hate the hardware too. Too heavy, aluminum case feels fucking cold to the touch, screen still isn’t bright enough to work outside, keyboard has that fucked up layout. And although the M-series sets a nice trend, it currently cannot run GNU/Linux without lots of reverse engineering, so fuck that. My 2014 gen Thinkpad is a far better experience. I’m now even more convinced than ever that Apple is just a marketing cult.
At least where I live, if the bootleg repair place isn’t slightly moldy, it’s a scam. Rundown, old white tiles on the wall, chipped mirror somewhere, a frail curtain to separate the back area from the front counter, and, in summer, a mandatory swiveling standing fan. That’s where your phone will get a second lease on its live!
Never did a lot of specifically phone repair, but all the computer and misc electronics repair I’ve worked at follow a similar pattern to yours. To add to it - there should be cobbled together racks, behind the flimsy curtain, filled with devices of many vintages in many states of (dis)repair.
The cleaner the place and the steeper the price, a lotta times the better the proprietor is at business than at electronics, lol
what did Steve Jobs even do except for management and marketing, and why does he then get the praise for the hardware/software???
ripped off Steve Wozniak
Honestly, genius-level move. Always a good decision.
he did much more than that….
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I
might be an interesting read:
By March 1, 1976, Wozniak completed the basic design of his computer.[22][23] Wozniak originally offered the design to HP while working there, but it was rejected by the company on five occasions.[24] When he demonstrated his computer at the Homebrew Computer Club, his friend and fellow club regular Steve Jobs was immediately interested in its commercial potential.[25] Wozniak intended to share schematics of the machine for free, but Jobs advised him to start a business together and sell bare printed circuit boards for the computer.[26][27][28] Wozniak, at first skeptical, was later convinced by Jobs that even if they were not successful they could at least say to their grandchildren that they had had their own company. To raise the money they needed to build the first batch of the circuit boards, Wozniak sold his HP-65 scientific calculator while Jobs sold his Volkswagen van.[26][27]
to me he just seems like a businessman, not a developer
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He was a moron, he died from eating too much fruit against the advice of his doctors.
That’s all you need to know.
I mean, no. He died because he tried alternative medicine BS to treat his pancreatic cancer instead of actual medicine.
His doctors didn’t tell him to stop “eating too much fruit”.
You are correct sir, thanks for letting me know.
Right, he demanded “NO FANS” on most products and caused all those components to overheat. He was a true visionary.
He was a marketing and brand genius I give him that.
well you try recording music on a pc with a stupid fan that won’t shut up….
he did a lot of good and bad things… but more than “just a businessman” b.s.
I volunteered at a university radio station a few times and was taught how to cut out AC/Heater/Fan noise from a recording using audacity on what I think was my second time going in. Recorded a PSA about cancer screening.
It’s been almost a decade and a half so I don’t remember exactly how, but the point is that it was something they taught people effectively walking in off the street.
I’d imagine it’s different with a non-constant fan, but you can force computer fans to a consistent 100% speed through a handful of different ways.
It’s just a low pass filter. Since human speech is massively out of the frequency range of a fan, you can just delete that whole frequency wholesale.
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hate to break it to you but:
lsd is a wonderful drug and a big reason why they were so innovative… and a big reason why we have the internet at all….
you may have been… misled into thinking an LSD party is like a crack party or something, but people who take lsd are actually interested in expanding their mind and it’s nothing at all like what the man says it’s like.
for example, here’s one paper on it:
….
i don’t think he was a very good person… pretty terrible with how he treated his daughter and employees… but i do think he was very smart, creative, and legitimately concerned with expanding human potential through computers… and successful in that.the structure of dna was discovered on lsd… much of the internet was created on lsd… one of ibm’s best programmers wrote a good paper on how lsd helped him hold an entire compiler in his head at once… much of silicon valley is currently microdosing lsd (and that’s in San Francisco, btw… capital of lsd).
in short, him throwing lsd parties is one of the best things he did….
(also, bill gates took lsd because of Jobs in order to be more creative, and then became one of the biggest philanthropists ever)
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