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    Shouldn’t that tell you something? Both parties share the same end game, they just want to go about it differently. They want to win and we have to lose to make that happen. Bernie actually wanted to fix the problems Americans deal with. None of the others think you deserve it.

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      Nah you just have geriatrics like Chuck Schumer who believe it’s his job to make the left wing like Israel and in doing so, has completely failed to represent what democrats actually want and promotes corruption because at least Gaza is losing.

      We could have, or would be much closer to having better laws without cunts like that in office.

      Reps are awful, but Dems are equally guilty of the sin of enabling this evil to thrive.

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    Bernie threatens their way of life, which is making money doing nothing of note.

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    In plenty of countries the Democrats would be considered a right wing party, the US does not have a true left party

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      I feel like after what happened in Germany recently that doesn’t hold as much water. If the average left wants to defend socialized healthcare and tax the rich, then the Dems are left.

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        Democrats don’t want to do either of that. Folks like AOC and Bernie should realistically be on their own party.

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          If they don’t want to do that then they should stop writing laws that do that. They should stop campaigning on that platform.

          I remember conservatives freaking out that Kamala Harris supported a capital gains tax over a million dollars “it will destroy the economy”.

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        Yeah, years of pandering to fascists by elevating their topics, repeating their lies unchallenged and also blaming everything on “the foreigners” shifts politics to the right and far right. Doesn’t mean that it shifts what is left and what is right.

        You can have countries full of fascists. Doesn’t mean the “moderate fascists” now get to define what is “left”.

        This “logic” of course is peddled by the US Democrats and amplified by the Oligarchy. Also the US Democrats dont want to tax the rich. Over the past Decades they have shifted the taxes from capital to income. There never was a proper healthcare system in the US and Obama defended not creating a proper one when he had the power because “muuh Jobs”.

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          I think that left being progressive and right being conservative means that the absolute scale does change based on the current situation.

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        That is such an American view on politics.

        A right wing party doing well in one election, does not shift the entire political spectrum for all the other parties. Specially not when you have a parliment with six or so different parties.

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          It’s a lot more than a right wing party doing well, it’s a right wing party shifting into territories that used to be radical and still winning. Elon Musk was shown on stage for the AfD telling them to stop being ashamed of germany’s past.

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            While it is deeply concerning, faux news has been one of the most shared propaganda networks on social media for well over a decade, so it’s not surprising that their disinformation-induced MAGA-mental-illness is spreading throughout the world.

            Crime pays; especially when the oligarchs are paying for it.

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      Create one, and all it will do is suck away Democratic votes, further emboldening Repblicant fascists.

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          That’s the way. Change the Democrats. Don’t just set up an ill-fated 3rd party that will never win and guarantees they lose. How do you change the Democrats? Well it won’t be with pushing buttons on our phones. The best way to change them is to become them. Run for office. Look at AOC and Bernie. Let’s get 50 more of each of them and then see what life looks like.

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    It still baffles me that Cory Booker spoke through the night to inspire people…and then voted to confirm Trump appointees anyway. I do not understand what goes through these people’s heads.

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          My most generous reading of democrat inaction is that right now their only power at the federal level is obstruction in Congress. This obstruction may eventually lead to government shutdown and this would be the greatest gift you could give a dictator.

          Let’s just say that some ICE agents and DOGE maniacs will keep working because they are in it for things beyond money, so to speak.

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          Not directly, but the democrats are a right wing bourgeoisie liberal party, so they essentially serve the interests of capital

          The interests of capital eventually leads to imperialism and when that starts to crack (<- you’re here), fascism. Unless the actual socialists win.

          And you know what? I don’t think socialism had a chance in yankee land. They have spent decades upon decades brainwashing the population in a highly compatible fashion. The highest point of American radical action is just some adventurism terrorist shit that doesn’t do anything. Ask Americans to actually organize and do vanguard action and they’ll screech at you, because the bourgeoisie media and education has made you an slave inside your own brain.

          So yeah, democrats or whatever. Why does it matter if fascism comes in 9 years or 4 years, you guys are straight up fucked.

          If you live in yankee land, emigrate your ass before you lose your ass

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      Both things had about the same amount of impact, honestly.

      Would you rather watch horrible people enter office without any say in it or would you rather at least get a word in and have them make promises? Even with every dem voting against they can still afford to lose 3 votes, and Mitch “The Reaper” McConnell was the only Republican to vote nay on 3 candidates.

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    Maybe stating the obvious here: their interests are more aligned with Trump than with Bernie.

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      We desperately need electoral reform. There’s no issue with moderates existing. The issue is that currently the choice is either moderates or fascists. And the fascists are quite adept at portraying the moderates as authoritarian communists.

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        I’ll admit it’s a bit of hyperbole but the amount of effort they put into shutting Bernie out left me with quite the sour taste.

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          He isn’t in the DNC and they still include him in their presidential primaries, if anything it seems unfair how much preferential treatment he gets compared to other third parties.

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            They didn’t include him out of kindness but because excluding him would alienate a huge part of their base. They publicly let him in and then behind the scenes made sure he wouldn’t get far.

            Recent events have shown clearly how much more public support Bernie is able to pull compared to those deluded old establishment types in the DNC. Schumer keeps yapping the same old platitudes while their numbers keep falling. Meanwhile Bernie’s selling out stadiums even in red states.

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              He did get far. Millions of people voted for him, he won many districts, and then lost the primaries due to the fact that millions more people voted for Hillary and for Biden.

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        What a profound lack of class consciousness and knowledge of political repression.

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            You’re defending the establishment dems while they collaborate with fascists by standing in the way of anyone who tries to resist. You’re the one ignoring reality, but sure, keep playing dead. That’ll really show 'em.

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              Got a more specific example to work with? We can just slander each other all day, you’re a buffoon who refuses to believe we had a truly better if not perfect choice and collectively are just a bunch of asshats.

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                We’ve been over this before, no point in rehashing it. That you consider Harris to be anything close to a “perfect choice” is enough on its own to tell me you’re not reachable.

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      I genuinely don’t think so. I just think they’re incompetent when dealing with Trump.

      (Edit: meh, I’ve seen what makes you cheer)

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        They’re not incompetent, they’re complicit. They care more for their career and finances than they do for any cause.

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        Yeah. Can’t expect a politician to know what it means to vote for or against a law, or candidate. That is just a level of incompetency. Totally isn’t complicity to vote alongside Trump…

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    Trump is a rival in the same sports league. Bernie sometimes dares to question whether the league should even exist

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      1. Bernie Sanders is not an Anarchist.

      2. The DNC is a decrepit old manager and Trump is the guy who buys out the enemy team on credit from foreign banks.

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    I was just telling a friend, both sides want the same thing, money. The difference is, one side is willing to kill for it, and the other side is always willing to look away.

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      Why did Democrats ban large campaign contributions from 2003 until 2010 when the SCOTUS overturned the law?

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        Who was president from 2009 to 2017 and could have passed a different law? Who was president from 2021 to 2025?

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          To overrule the SCOTUS interpretation of the constitution you would need to amend the constitution, required 60 Senators and a house majority. Since 2013 there haven’t even been more dems than repubs before caucus, much less 60.

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              They never had 60 votes. They had a 58 + 2 ind caucus for 72 days and chose to use that time to expand medicaid to millions of americans.

              The last time the DNC had 60 seats if I recall was 1979?

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    every time i bring up the DNC railroading Bernie in 2016, i get brigaded by status quo idiots

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      They did the same in 2020 then did away with all pretenses of input in 2024 and just told us who the candidate was going to be

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        Hate to defend them, but that’s not really an accurate portrayal of what happened in 2024.

        Biden should have announced he wasn’t running and allowed the primary process to play out. If he hadn’t, then the DNC should have overridden him. It’s unbelievable that they didn’t anticipate or care that Trump would win again.

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          It was a pretty convenient way for them to hand pick a nominee. Given how the last two played out I don’t think that’s an unfair lens to view the situation through.

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            They really wanted Biden to win it and immediately step down for his illness that they all knew he had so that Kamala could take over without having to run herself. They knew she wouldn’t win a primary, but it was her turn after all.

            Biden’s disaster debate ruined that plan and Kamala’s mishandled campaign doomed them.

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      I’m sorry that bringing up how absolutely not even close both of those primaries were makes me an idiot.

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        It’s almost like they were, until the Democrats put their fingers on the scale. Weird how that turned out.

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          Oh yeah those Democrats, hurting democracy by…

          convincing 14 million more people to vote for them…?

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    I know what you’re trying to say. But Barney commands in army of five-year-olds. There was a story a few years back about these kids attacking someone dressed in a Barney costume because they did not sound like Barney.

    Barney is more frightening than the realistic looking T-Rex

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      I get what you’re trying to say, but a real Tyrannosaurus rex is far more frightening than that.

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        Difference is that Barney is walking among us while the Trex only threaten the cleaner by falling over and crushing him

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        Not really. They’re kinda slow and I’m pretty sure that 6bore bear slug is gonna take care of the overgrown chicken.

        Granted… said 6bore would likely take care of the fake one, but I’m not willing to find out. The horde of. Randy lovers, they’re the terrifying ones in this calculation.

        And that means big bird is more terrifying than either!