Oh excuse me, but my pig seems to have lost its head somewhere. Has anyone seen a pig’s head nearby?
An alleged handler, a pro-Russian Moldovan businessman, was later identified amid suspicions that Russia’s security services were behind that campaign, according to Agence France-Presse.
Of course Russia is fucking involved. Putin wants to leave the world as bad off for everyone that’s not him as he can. Fuck every asshole that participated in this horseshit.
Lol.
I actually side with the accused on this one.
French Muslims need to band together to make sure the culture that led to the Charlie Hebdo attacks and other beheadings doesn’t continue.
Until that happens, they deserve to have pigs’ heads outside of their mosques. Fuck’em.
Oh, and fuck religion in general. I’m just being nice by saying they should reign in their killers as a bare minimum.
Yes collective punishment will show them and not continue the hate and violence spiral. Very educated take. Clearly.
Internet atheists who consider themselves progressive will say the most unhinged shit once religion is involved.
This person does not represent me, or what I have seen to generally be considered “internet atheism” (unsure what makes it different than garden variety atheism, but my guess is it was intended derogatorily).
“Internet atheist” is just another term for “online militant atheist.”
Turns out it wasn’t just God to blame for extremism
And the way to do this is by putting pig heads in front of their mosques?
Yeah, buddy, that’ll do it.
It’s better than nothing, which is what people like you love to do.
I don’t “do nothing,” I fundamentally disagree with your entire framing of the situation.
It’s literally worse than nothing.
“How do we make people less extreme and more open to our culture? Oh, I know! We harass and insult them! That’s sure to make them want to join us!”
Nah, fuck that. I hate religion more than most, but this isn’t how you create change. You change things by making them feel accepted and a part of the culture. French isn’t a thing that came from nothing. It’s a conglomeration of all cultures of the people before who joined as one into a fairly cohesive group. This is true everywhere.
Muslims aren’t better or worse than these groups (in fact, they’re part of it already). However, anyone who thinks they are worse is worse than them. You want them to be accepting of your culture, and you can’t accept any of theirs? Yeah, fuck you. Maybe you’re the extremist who doesn’t deserve to be accepted.
Yeah, I think all religions should be forbidden in Europe.
Please tell me you’re being sarcastic here.
No First Amendment rights over there. What a shame. I’m grateful for the ever-so-increasingly-restricted freedom of speech and protest we have here in the States.
France burns the country to the ground when the government tries to raise the retirement age or take away from the 2 months of vacation they have, you all rolled over like dogs and let an incontinent, senile old rapist turn your country out.
Maybe shut the fuck up
And I commend them for it. They can do that because their country hasn’t undergone decades of police militarization like in the U.S.
France seems to be going out by death by a thousands cuts while retaining their right to burn down the city; in contrast, the U.S. retains the right to small oppositions and protest while large-scale ones tend to get the full force of the militarized police state. Pick your poison I guess.
I’d hardly say we rolled over like dogs considering there are regular protests with significant turn-out here — they’re just not covered by the media because it would hurt the oligarchs/corporate overlords in their quest for domination.
Further, there’s more than a little bit of evidence that strongly suggests our election was tampered with and that Russia has been in the mix for a while now.
America is in a bad way yes, but until quite literally this year we were doing decent.
Maybe consider the position of the average good-natured American rather than assume they’re all fat and stupid people who want the leader we currently have?
Maybe you should shut up and think for a second before being so aggressive?
I’d hardly say we rolled over like dogs considering there are regular protests with significant turn-out here
Well your protests/parades are doing exactly zilch, so I’d suggest you learn from the French before it’s too late.
America is in a bad way yes, but until quite literally this year we were doing decent.
See, that’s your problem right there. (Mostly white) Moderate middle class America was doing decent, everyone else was absolutely not. That’s why Trump got elected in the first place and why he has so much popular support.
And what, pray-tell, do you suggest we learn from the French that we currently don’t practice?
I also find it interesting that you insinuate to not be from the U.S. but claim to know the demographics of who is doing decent and how well they were doing. I know plenty of asian, black, and hispanic people who were/are just as wealthy as white people, more righting-leaning than white people, and/or otherwise voted for Trump.
Ignoring that weird tangent you went on, quite literally everyone was doing better before Trump so long as you weren’t the wealthy elite (who are now even better than before), so functionally, by comparison, yes, America was doing decent across the board regardless of race, gender, class etc. What are you even trying to say?
I know plenty of asian, black, and hispanic people who were/are just as wealthy as white people, more righting-leaning than white people, and/or otherwise voted for Trump.
Ah, yes, anecdotes. Everyone knows these are as valid as cold, hard data.
by comparison, yes, America was doing decent across the board regardless of race, gender, class etc. What are you even trying to say?
That this is not what “decent” means. Attempting to ad-hoc in a “by comparison” is a cop-out, because that’s literally not what you said. Things going from bad to worse is no excuse to call the bad state “decent.” George Floyd did not happen under Trump.
I don’t feel terribly inclined to consider the opinions of someone who says “France doesn’t have the first amendment”
This has been visible for years and building over decades, America in general chose for this to happen.
Okay buddy 👍 if you’re incapable of thinking just say so.
There’s plenty wrong with America, but as someone who doesn’t take part in any religion, I appreciate and demand the right to be able to protest or otherwise denounce religions that are morally reprehensible. Islam is one of those, some sects of Christianity as well - namely Mormonism which is functionally the Islam of Christianity lol.
Part of why America has become the way it is, is due to the rampant hesitancy at opposing the fascist/authoritarian nature of religions such as Christianity. Seems America will become a Christian hellscape, France appears to be going down the Islamic hellscape.
Doesn’t change my point that freedom of speech/protest is important to resist the controlling nature of the religious disease.
Bro, just stop, you’re making Americans look stupid
You can protest in France, they kind of invented it.
You can protest Islam in France too.
You aren’t doing yourself any favours here
Looks like people just got arrested for it so I beg to differ.
Oh, can you put the heads of dead animals on other people’s property as a threat in America? I wasn’t aware
Doesn’t change my point that freedom of speech/protest is important to resist the controlling nature of the religious disease.
Complete freedom of speech isn’t allowed in any other Western democracy.
Saying we should kill all black people will get you jailed in mamy western nations, in the US it’s a rallying cry.
Like the US Gun laws, you can look to other similar nations who do it differently to see if there are different outcomes.
As to religion, is their a more secular western nation than France ? The US is infested with the putrid stench of religion every where you look, In God we trust ? FFS.
There are any things to admire about the US I just can’t tthink of any right now
This is kind of the same ignorance as OP but from the other side.
The us doesn’t have “complete freedom of speech” (even if we’re counting a USA where the first amendment still matters, aka not now)
Other western democracies do not practice a “lesser form” of free speech than America.
You are just American
“Saying we should kill all black people will get you jailed in mamy western nations, in the US it’s a rallying cry”
First of all: many*
I have lived in rural and suburban areas. I have also lived in right-leaning and left-leaning areas. I now live in a city.
Your information must be outdated because never in my 30ish years living in the U.S. have I ever heard “We should kill all black people” let alone heard it used as a “rallying cry.” Be fuckin’ for real and get out of your fantasy land. You can’t even spell correctly, I won’t be engaging with you or your bad-faith arguments any further lol
