• Etterra@discuss.online
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    7 days ago

    Views not high enough? Change the definition of your metrics so it looks like you’re getting better results! It’s not technically lying to investors.

  • stopforgettingit@lemmy.world
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    Here is my take - They are adding a new metric called “Engaged Views”, this is the same metric that a “View” was previously, something like - the person stayed after 30 seconds so they are “engaged”. Then they are going to sell ads based on the now inflated view number and use the “Engaged view” metric against creators so they can cut the amount they are paying for monetization.

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    This is because they just fucked everyone by doubling the minimum views to get paid.

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        Revenue is already largely based on watch time, so if people click away after a couple seconds, you didn’t really get anything anyway. Plus you tell the algorithm that your videos will cause a room of people to leave quickly

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    So after butchering the like/dislike ratio, the view-count will also become utterly useless… What’s next, automatically subscribing users to inflate subscriber-count too? All these universally liked videos (no dislikes), views/exposure (zero engagement), advertiser-friendly content (threatened (shadow)banning or demonetization)! Now the only red flag to any malinformed advertiser might be a low subscriber-count; so just do it already. Well, alongside the lackluster performance of the ads themselves of course (which can only be measured after the transaction: poorly at that). And the best part: non of the ad-revenue will be shared with the propped up channels: as the recently heightened threshold, requires additional engaged viewers; as opposed to the TikTok-level, worthless kind.

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    When I was a kid I would refresh my video to increase the view count. I thought this was implemented to prevent that.

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    That’s it, I’m in my grandpa era, books (published pre-2022) and retro games only

    If I could browse the internet at large with the same filter (that is to say only content pre-2022) I might consider still using it but as of right now it ain’t worth it. Might just build a zeronet with my friends at this point.

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      I know everybody’s pissed at YouTube for this news and the inordinate amount of Artificial Incompetence they host and serve, but FYI add “before:2022” (or whatever year) to filter out recent years. There may be ways to do this with other sites, please let me know if you know.

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    I assumed they were already doing that. They’ve never been forthcoming in regards to what actually counts as a view.

    1. Especially weird if I view videos from my own channel, on my end it seems to tally each time I watch my own videos, which isn’t supposed to happen.

    2. And videos I never chose or clicked on automatically start playing as soon as I open the app or switch from “Me” to “Home.”

    3. Or if one person watches a video multiple times, does youtube count each of those views? Because for YouTubers whose livelihood depends on likes & views & subscribers, YouTube needs to make sure a creator isn’t manipulating the system with bot farms or friends/family/paid losers to repeatedly watch the videos.

    Now my brain hurts & I’m grumpy. Bye.

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        Yes that’s exactly what I mean. It’s disingenuous for YouTube to be doing that, I mean in the grand scheme of things it’s a trifling matter, but it’s a bit of fuckery because algorithms & livelihoods are affected by this nonsense.

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        Yes my autoplay is always turned off. I mean when you’re on the home screen it automatically plays, on mute, and not full-screen, whichever suggested video is oriented in the middle of the screen. This isn’t something that can be opted out of.

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          You sure? What you describe is the autoplay that I was referring to. Nothing automatically plays anywhere for me, even in the main feed view

  • NathanRanch@lemmy.zip
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    These changes, awful as they seem, are effecting me less and less as I use the platform less and less. It’s like, “oh you’re getting worse? Carry on then”, then I go back to my Plex server.

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    So every time your mouse activates the thumbnail preview: that’s a view.

    Don’t bother trying to turn that feature off. They just turn it back on. Flipping those fake settings buttons is just more engagement “money” for them to harvest.

    On PC you need to turn off view history and use Ublock Origin to block EVERYTHING on YT but the player and some basic UI buttons and maybe comments.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    I tried watching a how-to video on YT today.

    It say “playback not supported on this device”.

    Probably thanks to my ad-blocking efforts.

    Fuck youtube. Can’t get views if the video never plays.

  • EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip
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    Sounds like a desperate attempt to convince investors that there is growing user engagement by decreasing the amount of time needed for a video to be considered engaging. Must be that people are moving through shorts at breakneck speeds. I haven’t touched YouTube in many years as the platform turned into one giant ad service (even if you pay for to remove ads). I guess that is what Google is primarily anyway, a company aiming to serve personalized (maybe also behavioral) ad to people.