Most well educated young adults who emigrate do so for better wages. Shocker.
Brits on their way to leave the continent:
Well they don’t want to be in the EU
Brexit wasn’t good enough I see, they want to move the whole country to the mid-atlantic
i’m seeing three dominant patterns: the aussie funnel, the nordic maelstrom and the franco-swiss oscillator.
Also one megatrend pattern that seem to lead away from Russia.
Germany really hard-carrying the Franco-Swiss oscillator.
‘Carrying’
Why would you leave Norway for shitty little Denmark tho
The Nordics, Finland, and Estonia are just doing an exchange program.
The only thing better than a Nordic country is another Nordic country
I thought it was because those nations are basically bickering siblings and enjoy annoying each other.
we’re very keen on recycling
Greece and Albania are 100% accurate! Also Albanians, their second choice is Germany too. edit: why no one wants to go to Italy? like the go for vocations etc, but they don;t want to live there? weird.
Italy might be nice to live in if you’re financially independent and don’t need to work, but aren’t they kind of famous for having a terrible economy for the last 50 years or so? I’ve also read it has an increasing number of people living with their families into their 30s, not by choice, but because they can’t afford to live on their own with the current jobs available to them. With factors like that, plus their increasingly xenophobic government, it doesn’t surprise me that people who have other options will prioritize them, rather than moving to Italy.
Germans want to be anywhere but Germany lol
Every country wants to be anywhere else but that country. It’s a map of emigration destinations …
You’re reading it backwards. Everyone wants to live in Germany.
This is why they call Aussies, crazy sunny Brits.
Mad dogs and Englishmen.
Data source plz.
A poll of 50 students
/s
This makes me wonder how does the graph diagram wind up looking like. Most nodes seem to end in a Germany-Switzerland-France loop
And then there’s the edge case of England going literally outside of the continent, with Australia
That’s because Brits would rather move to the literal other side of the globe where everything wants to kill you than learn a second language.
That makes a lot of sense - but if that were all there was to it, wouldn’t most of the emigration go to the fellow Commonwealth member, Canada?
Better not risk the chance of ever seeing a french word. By accident
The other side of the world: for when you really need to get as far away from it all as you can.
They took away our right to live in Europe. I imagine things would be very different for British 18-34 year olds had that not happened.
Russians also move to Kazakhstan
Right, I keep forgetting Russia is still partly in Europe
Oddly enough, so is Kazakhstan! By most definitions of the Asia-Europe border, Kazakhstan has a chunk on the European side that’s actually still bigger than most European countries
Some countries like Turkey are part of both Europe and Asia on technicalities. They straddle the border so they get to be part of both.
Then there’s Russia, where the population is mostly in Europe, but the land is mostly in Asia.
The European part of Turkiye is still about twelve million people as well, it’s not like Russia but it is still a pretty substantial number of people. It’d be the 12th-most populous country in Europe if it was independent
It’s not as out of balance as Russia though. European Russia accounts for about 15% of Europe’s entire population. It’s a huge area, a lot of which is rural, but its population density of 27/km^2 is almost 10x as high as the population density of Siberia at 2.8/km^2. Siberia is 13.1 million km^2, European Russia is just under 4 million km^2.
Siberia is normally thought of as a snowy wasteland, but it also includes Russia’s entire Pacific coast, including Vladivostok where in the summer the average highs through July, August and September are all above 20C. That’s warmer than Edinburgh. Its winters are colder, but they’re not much colder than Moscow.
i feel there’s a big difference in how the parts of the countries culturally relate to each other, too.
Like i’m not aware of any real difficulty getting between european and asian Turkey, whereas with russia it’s 1) a massive distance, 2) there’s a big fuckoff mountain chain in the way, and 3) the fuck are you going to do in siberia?
Most of it is in Asia, but the part in Europe has most (75%+) of the actual people. Partly colonial population dynamics at work, partly the rest of it being Siberia.
They do like to make themselves at home in other people’s homes. Wouldn’t be such a problem if so many of them weren’t such horrible cunts.
Most popular coloring is deceiving: It could mean 90% emigrate to that country or 10% do. Also this map totally neglects how many stay in that country.
To visualize the data completely (not on a map unfortunately) one could choose a chord diagram.
It’s deceiving in multiple ways. Like of course more Romanians emigrate to Germany than to Belgium or Luxembourg, Germany is many times larger. They should add the to-country base population and/or surface to the equation.
sorry to be nitpicky, but it’s only a 2-cycle, switzerland and france. but most of the countries get there via germany.
it would be interesting to look at the induced directed acyclic graph of the original graph’s connected components.
It just ends in a France Switzerland loop. I think you’re mistaking Austria for Switzerland.
Didn’t really expect people wanting to migrate into Poland.
Hasn’t Poland doing very well over the last few years? So well, that in fact, here in germany more Poles are going back to Poland than new Poles are coming to germany lol. All because in germany the rents are high, and even more importantly, your net pay sucks since you gotta pay a lot for social security, and those social security costs that get deducted from your pay keep rising, leaving you with an ever smaller net pay.
My Polish schoolmates returned to Poland, especially after the recession.
No no, it’s honestly the most logical choice for people from Belarus. Similar culture, many already speak the language, Poland is rich in comparison to Belarus and everything is a beacon of freedom when compared to Europes last dictatorship.
I know plenty of young Finns that left to Poland in hopes of better life and they’re living the dream there… Yeah, wages are smaller, but so are living costs and all that too.
But then, of course, everybody is rich compared to Belarus.
Into the the largest and richest economy in the region (Eastern Europe)? Shocker, amirite?
As you can see. The Dutch stay in “dutch-land” :-)
Because Holland is the best. Nobody wants to leave!
It says Spain, but I won’t blame you for reading this confusing map wrong. (Also, no mention of how many people actually go to Spain.)
I don’t understand? I do not see my dutch flag on any other country. So logic tells me we apparently never leave ;-)
No see, that’s why the map is confusing. The flag shows for each country where most people from that country emigrate to. So people from the Netherlands emigrate to Spain, people from Spain emigrate to Germany and people from Germany emigrate to Switzerland.
I appreciate that Scandinavia doesn’t show a clear preference except for staying in Scandinavia
For once, Germany is popular!
A bit too popular, as all the culture clash & other associated problems are giving right-wing extremists ammunition for their bullshit. At least so it seems to this distant American who lived there for several years decades ago.
IME, people from slavic countries aren’t really responsible for most of the culture clashes. Far-righters are mostly complaining about muslims and black africans, i.e. groups that are much more visible and far more culturally different.
Also, I’m not a fan of appeasement. IMO few would care about the far right if people didn’t have to deal with more tangible issues like absurd real estate prices, declining quality of social security systems + healthcare and the national government’s brazen corruption. Plus, massive online propaganda.
Oh, they hate Slavs too, they just hate muslims more. If they were to somehow get rid of the migrants they’d find the time for slav-bashing, believe me.
That argument means that nothing you do will make the farrighters disappear, other than legal and possibly violent suppression. I do think there’s some truth to that, but the fact that the farrighters aren’t even complaining (much) about slavs immediately invalidates the other commenter’s argument.
Fascism always needs an ennemy.
Good point. I’m only loosely aware of what’s going on over there, and honestly haven’t really put much thought into it. I just hate to see yet another piece of cherished childhood memories going down the tubes.
No, it is the inaction of politicians in general that is giving those people ammunition (figuratively and literally).
Ahhh, sorry to hear they’ve contracted a bad case of Americanitis.
The regions where the far right is most popular are also the regions with the least immigrants.
I live in Finland and we’re looking to moving into Sweden or Norway… It’s rough here. Everything is expensive, can’t get or afford healthcare, no jobs… We just want a little house and some simple jobs to barely sustain or little family, and to be able to go to the doctor if sick. Not possible in Finland at the moment or in the near future.
Isn’t healthcare free in Finland?
It used to be nice, it’s still nice if you’re dying. The big problem is getting there as some data suggests Finland now has by far the longest wait times to see a doctor in Europe. Current government implemented austerity measures combined with economic difficulties since the 90s recession that screwed us over.
Lol, no, not in any way. :DDD
Don’t expect it to be terribly different in Norway. If you are dying and/or need emergency care it is probably ok/good, but just your average healthcare is annoying at best and you have to beg for any kind of specialist treatment.
That’s honestly what I’m expecting.
well don’t go to sweden expecting better healthcare, the previous right wing government has been very busy ruining everything with privatization.
They have and it sucks but we still have decent health care. It’s just that the overhead is increasingly siphoned off to some tax haven.
It might still be better compared to not getting any… It’s not like we need help every week and so on. I got lots of family in Northern Sweden, and they all just say it’s all good and they get easily what they need and even can go to specialists fast. (Yes, on public side.)
not sure you want to use northern sweden as a good example, considering how there have been news articles about people having to drive for hours to give birth in a hospital because their local one closed…
I live in Northern Finland and the situation is the same or even worse here. Anything is an improvenement. I’m, we’re, not looking for perfection, just something livable.
