GPU’s are a family business it would seem.
Su’s mother and Nvidia co-founder and former CEO Jensen Huang are first cousins. Su’s maternal grandfather is the eldest brother of Huang’s mother.
Replace CEO with feudal nobilty and suddently it looks straight outta a medieval story
Now I wonder why AMD has better Linux drivers then Nvidia.
Ya like if they all are the same, then why aren’t they? Like is it to maintain the veneer of non monopoly?
Even more damning: Jensen Huang used to work at AMD as an engineer, before he became a finance bro.
“It’s the same picture.” /s
Are you sure? Wig, lipstick, mascara, same person. Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
White Rose?
shes is the female counterpart of jensen huang. he could be a shapeshifter.
They did say that the Nvidia CEO is transitioning
So they… aren’t?.. having an affair?
tbd
Kissing cousins?
it’s all one big club, and we ain’t in it
Oooooooh wow that’s the relation.
I won’t lie this story is straight out of like 17th century Europe lol
What the fuck
You best start believing in feudal oligopolies, cuz yer in one.
Big what the fuck. For real.
If y’all think this is crazy, wait til you find out the entire US economy has been ruled by a few handfuls of families lol. Makes this shit seem like nothing in comparison.
Why do they suck at it so much now, though?
A Ford was married to Firestone (Tires)
A Vanderbilt was married to Crane (toilets)
Old family money: Vanderbilt (oil) Carnegie (Steel) Goldman-Sachs (wealth) lol
A Walton is married to J.B. Hunt. List goes on and on. The oligarchs having been doing this since the royalty days. Just now they dont worry about incest. But yes corporations are getting in smaller and smaller hands.
They must be laughing at politics and common folks thinking it makes a rat’s ass of a difference…
And then there’s Kennedys and of course, the Bush-Walker-Davis family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush–Davis–Walker_family_political_line
Future generations will marvel at how we went from that to shit like Trump and Kushner
Edit: also gotta mention JP Morgan Chase bank being an insane merger
It’s called inbreeding ask spanish royalty.
¿Ehhhh como se dice…. “inbreeding”? Donde esta la bibliotheca
Me llamo T-Bone, la araña discoteca
Ensanchado 😉🇪🇸
Su’s default response to anyone being nice now.
why do you think amd sounded like one of the tech bros, or agreed with nvidia on building AI DATACENTERS.
Not problematic at all /s. Gotta wonder who’s the patriarch of the family and what did they do? Betting on weapons (likely with US backing).
You don’t have to wonder, we have the internet lol
His parents weren’t rich, he was an immigrant child who worked at Denny’s to afford college.
Nvidia was a gaming hardware company. His billionaire arc is from being at the right place at the right time for the AI boom.
His cousin was a little more well-off but also wasn’t coming from a crime family. She went to MIT.
OK, thanks for delving into the shit that is the current internet, unlikely to be a source of actual truth these days unfortunately, but thanks. I find the coincidence of related CEOs in both major GPU manufacturers highly problematic and want a mechanism behind it. I assume something familial because of experience. Feel free to prove me wrong, provide references.
Seems to happen too often on a planet of billions, that families or friend groups keep ending up controlling everything.
If you claim big things and disregard information people provide to you that goes against it, you are not opened to be proven wrong.
Also, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
Absolutely wild response to publicly available information that hasn’t changed in decades. The only reason you care now is because they lucked into having products that are good at something they weren’t intended to do.
Considering gpus are just digital arms at this point. Arms dealing probably runs in the family!
Arms are used to kill people. How do you kill someone with graphing hardware?
“Soldiers dont shoot people, their guns do” energy.
The gpu sits somewhere in the middle. Command gives an order, Soldiers press the Buttons, the hardware calculated the target,the computer script fires when the target is locked in.
And their now looking to eliminate the soldiers to fully automize the process and get rid of pesky individual morals.
Soon enough war will be ai fighting ai and humans just collateral.
Hitting someone in the head with a 5090 can do serious damage.
You calculate where the bombs go
Ask a college student.
As an AMD GPU person I’ve been chuckling at the Nvidia drama from my high horse, but I guess I’m not safe either lmao
Anyone who has any loyalty to any company is not safe. The only safe option is to treat companies as your rival. They will charge you as much as you let them, your job is to reciprocate that rivalry by voting against them (and for yourself) and abandoning them for their rivals as soon as they turn on you.
People liked AMD for the same reason people like Pixel phones. Not because the company is wonderful, but the hardware allowing more modification and support for open source activities. And very little options when it comes to the hardware criteria they are looking for compared to those that stick to corporate operating systems.
You think she has a Chinese boy toy on the go?
Wouldn’t you?
Hello yes, is where we sign up for our chinese boy toy?
Not a Chinese one I don’t think…
Jensen’s ladytoy was also a Huang.
So it might even be a third cousin
There are 35 million Huangs in Taiwan and it’s the seventh most common last name in China (it’s also the fifth most common last name in Vietnam, but it’s often romanized differently from Vietnamese).
They are not related.
Team Red is not the Nvidia protest option we thought it was, especially since AMD is now a data center-first company too. I bought a 7900 XTX a few months ago because it was the only 24GB card still under $1k, but now the price has doubled.
For most was it ever about protest? If on Windows where most people are NVIDIA has been the better option for a long time, but if using Linux NVIDIA turns into a headache to get working properly compared to AMD.
So this is more like a Pixel phone situation where if someone wants custom roms like lineageOS or GrapheneOS to get away from corporate spyware its one of the top choices. Ironic because Google sucks, but other OEM phones and rom communities for it have died out. And same applies to AMD due to NVIDIA linux support being subpar and becomes a nightmare once support drops completely.
Data centre first company is what burned any goodwill I had for AMD. What a complete misstep.
Edit - we kept them alive for the last 15 years, and this is the thanks we get.
Are you guys just now learning that corporations have a legal obligation to their shareholders and nobody else? It’s literally built into their DNA like an animal’s drive to reproduce.
Anyone running AMD who made a different choice would be violating their fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.
That’s how C corps are designed.
That isn’t what fiduciary duty means. It means they can’t purposefully run the company into the ground. But any choice that can be justified, for example as “I don’t believe this AI thing is going to be all that and we should remain focused on our consumer markets for long term growth” immediately nixes any complaint about fiduciary duty. I mean unless the board can produce evidence that that’s a lie.
If the board disagrees with the CEO about the direction of the company they can replace the CEO, but again, the board and CEO can do anything reasonable.
They don’t have a legal obligation to their shareholders. This is a a huge lie that is told to scapegoat the CEOs that enable consulting firms to carve up competitors for even bigger money. They have an obligation only to the board members.
This is an IMPORTANT distinction that is what fuedalized corporate America to such an extreme.
Here’s an older article from the NYT that goes over in greater detail exactly how correct you are. But let me just say you are so correct and GOD this is a frustrating one to see so commonly believed.
I mean it’s the same thing as the RAM industry colluding fo make prices exorbitantly high. Of course they’re all going to maximize profits at all costs, they get sued into losing their roles at the company if they don’t loot everyone for all their money at all times
I think mine was maybe a little over $1k, back pre-RAMageddon.
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-RX7900XTX-PG-24GO-Graphics/dp/B0BTPK5J68
It looks like one can get them at about that price still.
Ah, nice! The only ones I saw otherwise were going for closer to $2k.
As a 3DFX person I have been asking, what is a pixel shader?
What Voodoo is this?!
I understood that reference.
please explain for the rest of us
Trust me Lisa Su us also having a big LOL and champagne on this news.
I mean… they are the same company dividing the market, for everyone thinking “oh amd saved us from the 4c 8t” or stuff like that: you are just dumb if you actually think that wasn’t organized.
Dividi et Imperia.
I think you’re confusing ignorance for stupidity. I didn’t know they were the same company.
They’re not though?
AMD has a lot of agreements with Nvidia and a long standing partnership with Intel, most famously the sharing of x86. There’s no indication of them being the same company though. Not legally or secretively. Even if they have cartel agreements…OH IT’S NOT THE SAME, Bill! All of these companies are run by the same crime family! Totally different people! People famously can not d speak to each under!
Maybe not legally, but on the secretive point I think your understanding of people conspiring isn’t really accurate.
he’s clearly just Mrs Doubtfire-ing
Well helllooooooooo!
First cousin once removed. Supposedly they first met as adults in an industry meeting when their careers had already launched. It does seem like a crazy coincidence though.
It’s insane how many people are brainwashed into believing that historic wealth distribution doesn’t have an overwhelming impact on present wealth and success.
My parents achieved middle class from poverty but never learned how to manage money because their parents were uneducated farmers, orphans, etc. I grew up around both rich and poor kids. Most of the kids who went into “high skilled” “professional” roles had parents in those disciplines, and the wealthiest have the wealthiest grandparents. Even the “pros” that didn’t have that were far from poor. The poorer kids I knew are blue collar at best, but many fell to addiction, suicide, or fell off the face of the earth.
For every decamillionaire who came from the middle class, there are dozens whose families were already millionaires in the 20th Century.
okay but both Su and Huang come from middle class immigrant families not families with generational wealth.
Its so funny that people keep speculating on in his early life as if wasn’t documented well before he got rich lol
Yes, but it’s still a massive coincidence that cousins who never met, a decade a part in age, raised by different families in different parts of the US are both CEOs of the two largest GPU manufacturers in the world.
I agree it’s a hell of a coincidence, but also a hell of a long game and they were both EEs.
Rough timeline:
- 1984 Huang graduates and starts working at AMD
- 1985 ATI founded
- 1986-1993 Huang bounces between grad school and other tech companies
- 1993 Huang founds NVidia
- 1994-2012 Su graduates and starts at Texas Instruments, goes on to other companies
- 2006 AMD buys ATI
- 2012 Su joins AMD
- 2014 Su becomes CEO of AMD
Back in 2012, both companies were not that significant. Very different from today. Like Intel was worth roughly 8x NVidia and AMD combined.
So did AMD, 6 years after buying NVidia’s biggest rival, intend to hire Huang’s relative to form a GPU cartel? Maybe. There’s plenty of other scenarios where it seems more obvious that things were done because of family connections. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that was the case, but I’m on the coincidence side (for now).
imagine the thanksgiving banter
She’s the one that called the FBI after he brought his new girlfriend to dinner last year.
Source?
It was a joke.
Hmmm… Not recognisable as one.
“Yeah my GPU’s might not be “the best” but I don’t need a fling on the side just to feel anything. BTW, how are your CPU’s going, still cuddling up to Mediatek? Pathetic. Processors for babies.”
“Oh no, I sold my CPUs to a small Japanese company called Nintendo. 183 million handheld consoles may not be quite your league but I’m happy.”
