• Commiunism@lemmy.wtf
    21·
    15 hours ago

    Hey, don’t rewrite history - twitter was always notoriously bad, under Elon it surely got even worse though.

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
      16·
      14 hours ago

      I agree with everything except the “got even worse” part. It was always a steaming turd.

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          8 hours ago

          A few Nazis and KKK apologists convinced a shit-ton of marketers, influencers, Karens, and other predatory users to leave.

          On balance, Nazis and Klukkers didn’t make it any worse than it was.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      172·
      1 day ago

      Ok well maybe a beacon of glory is a bit out there for Twitter, but there was a time where it was actually cool and unique.

      Like back in the day where you could interact with it over plain SMS lol

      I feel old.

  • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
    131·
    21 hours ago

    Those people sold it to musk. They were tech bros whose goal from the start was to get a massive buyout and bail. They don’t deserve your respect anymore than musk does.

    • PunnyName@lemmy.world
      91·
      23 hours ago

      Not really. It was fun to talk to people that you barely knew. It was kinda like a hybrid of a chatroom and a forum.

      But it grew to become shit.

      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        14 hours ago

        The reality is that Xitter isn’t actually any shittier than Twitter was. It’s not any better, of course. But it’s certainly not any worse.

  • als@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    121·
    1 day ago

    The way I look at it, if Elon Musk is gonna deadname his own child, I’m sure as shit gonna deadname the corporation he tanked

    • goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      7·
      1 day ago

      The following is a tremendously disproportionate analogy given that we’re talking about a microblogging website, but I really don’t think there’s any better term for it:

      It’s really less like you’re calling Twitter by its deadname and more like you’re refusing to call it by its slave name. Twitter didn’t come up with this on its own, some guy just rolled up and said “I’m changing your name because yours isn’t cool enough.” Like, fukken Kunta Kinte.

      Again, very unfortunate that that’s the only comparison that comes to mind but I’m really blanking on anything else. Jean Valjean, I guess. Maybe Darth Vader. Locutus of Borg.

  • calabast@lemm.ee
    111·
    1 day ago

    I mean, what you personally call it isn’t really going to make any difference, so if we’re trying to optimize your mental health, just reframe the naritive in your head. You’re still calling it Twitter to honor what it used to be, back when you respected it. You are refusing to acknowledge the nazi dumpster fire it has become, even if you still need to talk about it.

    I personally basically never have a reason to mention the site when taking to another person, but if/when I do, I’ll call it Twitter just because I think it would annoy Elon, if he somehow knew.

    • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
      2·
      22 hours ago

      I personally basically never have a reason to mention the site when taking to another person, but if/when I do, I’ll call it Twitter just because calling it ex was confusing in almost every context.

  • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip
    103·
    1 day ago

    I have despised twitter since basically its inception.

    1. The character (original) character limit fundamentally means you are strongly encouraged to limit conversation to basically soundbites, slogans, and pithy comments. Even though this was changed later, it still created a culture that generally mocks anything long winded.

    While its true that brevity is the soul of wit, wit is not the same thing as a detailed and nuanced discussion of a complex topic.

    It thus lends itself to being an optimal tool for political slogans, celebrity gossip, and direct corporate advertisement.

    1. Twitter is far, far, faaar too open ended, as in one to many kind of network connections. Its a dream come true also for narcissistic, attention seeking individuals who want to win Twitter.

    2. Twitter blew up before Facebook completely shifted (enshittified?) their entire model from being focused on actually connecting friend groups, and directly pushed Facebook toward just being an unmitigated firehose of ‘content’ from every which way, which just became the norm for ‘social media’ design.

    Of course X now is even fucking worse, but I am so glad its dying.

    The way I see it, Twitter contributed heavily toward destroying the older, more personal formats of social media, it helped destroy the old forum culture of the net where people had communities and a measure of intellect, privacy and respect.

    It took the sincerity out of online discourse, and was foundational in shifting the internet from a ‘place’ with lots of weird locales, into some kind of Eldritch god’s sick joke of a species level omni-mirror, reducing online humanity to a popularity contest of political slogans, narcissistic clout chasers, gossip mongers, and corporate sloganeering and brand worship… and giving all of this to us in an undifferentiated constant flow.

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
      4·
      21 hours ago

      I am with you on almost all this, but I’m not sure about this:

      a culture that generally mocks anything long winded.

      Don’t you remember the many-part tweets? Super common and all but admitting how fucking moronic the character limit was. The character limit alone made Twitter a huge piece of shit that I always hated. And I’m with you that it never made anything better. People argued for years that Twitter was good specifically because of that limit. I never understood that argument in the least.

        • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
          8·
          22 hours ago

          Because it’s text.

          There are more kind of letters then just our latin alphabet. Cyrillic, aboriginal Canadian and even Chinese and Japanese can be typed by just text for instance （日本語の例え）

          In the same vein, mathematical and other scientific symbols can be typed using just text, and 𝕏 is the symbol that stands in place for arbitrary distance in a formula.

          Basically, it’s just a (mathematical) letter, it can be typed.
          That’s also why their new CEO had difficulties copyrighting it; it’s just a letter, after all!