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Jon Stewart mocked Donald Trump’s reaction to the war plan leak, accusing him of exhibiting “quick onset dementia” whenever faced with accountability.

Stewart noted Trump’s aloof response to the security breach, where classified war plans were leaked via a Signal group chat mistakenly including a journalist.

Stewart criticized Trump’s repeated denial pattern, comparing it to previous instances where Trump distanced himself from controversial actions.

He also condemned the “crazy arrogance” of officials involved in the chat, calling the situation a major national security blunder.

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    “I do not recall…” - George Bush Sr

    “That I do not recall.” - Ronald Reagan

    “I don’t recall that.” - Oliver North

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    This is Trump’s way of stalling to give the GOP’s PR apparatus time to draft messaging that whitewashes the incident.

    Other politicians would say “no comment” to buy time, and that makes them look guilty. Trump says “I don’t know yet,” which makes the incident look too insignificant for a busy person to pay attention to.

    Honestly, it’s a smart tactic. It’s evil and shitty, but it’s smart.

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      That’s always the thing that saddens me. People think somehow Trump is both an idiot but stripping the government apart piece by piece at the same time. Even if he is dumb, there’s a powerful group of people behind him working hard to ensure they gain more money and/or power. And it’s pretty clear Russia is leading that charge. Trump isn’t in power because of some dumb mistake. It required a lot of money and effort, and the decisions he’s made in power are specifically benefiting those that put him there.

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        He’s not smart, he’s just had a lifetime to perfect the art of dodging accountability and becoming a figure that noone expects morality from… While somehow not being barred from positions of power. The del boy of american politics.

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    I always thought it was fascinating how much he gets to say he has no knowledge or memory of anything. It’s like wow, why are you even president if you don’t know or remember anything ever? The obvious tactic should have been mocking and ridiculing him BETTER than he mocks and ridicules everyone. His insults are trash tier. The left should have just roasted the shit out of him back in 2016.

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    I can’t get the link to load. Did Stewart criticize the decision to bomb Yemen?

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      I can’t imagine he’s in favor of bombing Yemen. Trying to gotcha your allies is so tiring. Leftists are their own biggest enemies

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        That wasn’t a gotcha, dumbfuck. I was curious because I usually like Jon Stewart and hoped he’d mentioned it in addition to this nonsense.

        But if you think that pointing out the wrong locus of outrage is being an enemy, you are making Republicans seem intelligent to you by comparison and you don’t belong in a free society.

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          Perhaps, if you’re so smart, you should understand the limitations of text based communication and be clearer in your initial messages. That way you don’t have to get into fights like an idiot.

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      This is the faux-progressive version of “Did he say Thank You?”

      Edit: maybe I misconstrued your sentiment. In the linked clip, he did not talk about the bombing of Yemen, only Trump feigning (or legitimately claiming, although I doubt it) ignorance.

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        I was just hoping that he talked about the important part—the bombing—in addition to the unimportant part—the text message.

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    Man… I used to really like Jon. He’s always been ultra liberal, but now he’s just insufferable… like literally intolerable.

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      I’ll bite.

      Jon isn’t ultra liberal, I’d say he’s on the far side of center left, like a lot of Democrats. Pro-capitalism, but managed/regulated capitalism. Pro social safety nets, but not “everyone gets everything they need for free”.

      The guy basically quit his show and went to the mat for 9/11 first responders, and I get the feeling that the opinions and issues he talks about are his actual opinions on issues that are important to him. I applaud him for not holding back on attacking Biden when it was clear that Biden was unfit for another 4 years in office. I think if we had listened to Jon earlier, we would have been able to run an actual primary and get Democrat voters more engaged. If you find Jon annoying or intolerable now, it might just be because he’s calling out shit that you like, and he’s doing it effectively.

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        Bite what? Why is everyone here acting so crazy to me over my original reply?

        I concede that “ultra liberal” wasn’t the right way to classify Jon. But I stand by what I said, I find him intolerable these days. And I’ve been a fan of Jon for many years. Unfortunately, he got a bad case of TDS.

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          The fact that you think TDS is a thing (and a thing that people on the left have especially) says it all. Troll verification complete.

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            it’s sad to see so many so terribly afflicted with TDS.

            I’ll honestly be very glad when trump isn’t a thing in politics anymore.

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          Bite what? I think the obvious thing they wanted to know was WHY you find him tiring and insufferable, not your classification of his liberalism.

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    Tbh I miss the Jon Stewart of the 2000s that actually would take a stand as opposed to Jon of the 2020s that platforms pieces of shit in candyass interviews and is too scared to say dirty words like “fascist” and “nazi.”

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      Tbh I miss the Jon Stewart of the 2000s that actually would take a stand as opposed to Jon of the 2020s that platforms pieces of shit in candyass interviews and is too scared to say dirty words like “fascist” and “nazi.”

      What a strange reply. Have you watched him lately?

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          At the time of that video, over a month ago, trump just got in office. He was doing really awful things legally. Just like he legally cheated. Stewart was saying, tell the people what he really is doing that’s illegal, fascist sounding but legal, actually fascist, etc., not call everything fascist because then it gets lost in the noise.

          I wonder if you actually watched it. Stewart was saying that to save the stuff that is actually fascist for the stuff that trump does that’s authoritarian because of this, the “firehose”:

          “Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”

          The goal is to keep opinions we don’t want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can,…

          https://archive.is/PoUMo

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            “Give him a chance” was a questionable take in 2016. It’s downright stupid in 2025. And being pedantic about what people are allowed to call fascist is just aiding and abetting them. Anything a fascist does is fascist. That’s all there is to it. While people like you and Jon nitpick over what the meaning really is, they’ve already torn apart the government and are rounding people up.

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              At no point did he say, “Give him a chance.” He said, call what he actually does as legal, legal, that’s authoritarian as authoritarian and call what he does fascist, fascist. Is Stewart perfect in his takes? Probably not, but he’s the best we’ve got.

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                At no point did he say, “Give him a chance.”

                You did.

                At the time of that video, over a month ago, trump just got in office.

                Second, defining fascism as only illegal acts is outlandishly out of touch. As if any fascist government doesn’t make the legal system work in their favor.

                And if Stewart is the best you’ve got, the situation’s royally fucked. Get better people to look up to, for real. Anyone tiptoeing around calling out full-throated fascism for what it is isn’t who you want telling you what’s going on.

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              Problem is calling trump a fascist just after winning a Democrat election is stupid. The people literally voted for this.

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                What makes you think only non-fascists can win elections?

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          I never watched the Apple show, so I have no idea on how they compare. Jon is doing old school Daily Show stuff on Mondays and then the rest of the week is a different host that hosts the entire week. You’re probably not going to agree with everything he says, but they have an amazing research staff. You’ll see things there that you might not see anywhere else because they care and are more journalist than most of our media.

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          Yes, absolutely. He’s only on Monday nights, but he’s usually on point. Ignore the contrarians in this thread.

          His podcast is also great.

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          It’s a very very different show. The Daily Show is pretty much back to the Obama-era show in tone and theme, but the hosts change.

          Jon’s long form interviews are now a “Weekly Show” podcast that’s on Thursdays.

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          I was a bit annoyed with that too, but he seems to have realized that he gave Trump an inch, and Trump took a mile. Like. He. Always. Does.

          In recent weeks, he’s been a bit more aggressive in calling a spade a spade.

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          But he was right. You the American people voted for him. So just because you didn’t agree with Trump doesn’t mean it was fascist. Calling everything he does fascist when it isn’t erodes the term for stuff he does that actually is.

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            These people are fascists, hands down. People like you and Jon that need to shove your head up your butt and pretend they aren’t to feel okay are the reason it’s taken hold.