I imagine Alaska being red is more about dying from the cold than the law.
Alaska ain’t much about rules. :)
Well apparently they are since you can’t be naked in your backyard!
The Finns would like a word with you.
On saunan aika!
In Kansas you can be butt ass naked on the sidewalk as long as you aren’t making it sexual.
*buck ass
Good, we’ve nipped that misunderstanding in the butt.
How do you not make it sexual? Cover your nipples and bits?
Behave the same way you would with clothes on. Just do things like tending a garden or talking to neighbors.
Think about it this way: Some guys like their nipples played with and can rub their nipples in public without getting any real attention unless they do it towards kids or something. Why is a bare nipple on a woman automatically sexual just because it is exposed? It isn’t automatically sexual despite a bunch of prudes assuming it is.
I would def think something is off with the guy stimming his nipples.
Yeah, but it wouldn’t be handled by the police anywhere close to a woman who is just topless and not doing anything extra.
I’d argue that the naked human body isn’t inherently sexual in nature.
It would take oh so much conditioning to think like that. You would have to be taught to think like that from the beginning. Society would need one hell of an overhaul.
I’m afraid to stare in the direction of a clothed woman’s boobs, which often causes me to awkwardly U-turn, because I don’t want the bullshit I had to experience before (someone notices, and gives you comments like “go grab her by the pussy” or other disgusting shit). Even with those societal barriers gone, you would basically need intense therapy to not feel wrong seeing naked people.
I’m afraid to stare in the direction of a clothed woman’s boobs
Staring is generally frowned upon regardless of a person being clothed or unclothed, but one is entirely free to look in a certain direction or do what is comfortable without fear - which includes looking at another person briefly.
someone notices, and gives you comments like “go grab her by the pussy” or other disgusting shit
I can’t say I’ve ever had that experience, but you don’t have to be uncomfortable if somebody caught you in moment like that.
you would basically need intense therapy to not feel wrong seeing naked people.
People have very little reasons to be nude e.g. in modern American society, but it doesn’t have to be weird or sexual. The laws obviously need to catch up first and foremost, but I feel like there’s nothing wrong with being naked - even if a person has more ahem overt sexual characteristics that others take note of.
The thing about nudity is that people generally gradually get used to it. The differences become less impactful after a certain point. Sure it takes time, and people who have issues with their appearance and body may have greater barriers, but I don’t feel like intense therapy is needed for most.
I will just stare blankly with my thoughts on something else, and get accused of gazing. That’s the thing, I have to go out of my way not to stare at a person, which often means walking awkwardly, sometimes hitting something I was not looking at 🤷♂️
I will pretty much only gaze at a woman if pressured, and I can’t even keep that up. The programming is strong that this is very wrong.
TL;DR: I hate male company as a result, in an ironic twist.
So, the only reason you can come up with against public nudity is that you specifically are unable to control themselves 🤔
Well if I was with you in public, I’d definitely be supporting you to feel more comfortable in your skin. Regardless of the broader topic of nudity and all that, I hope you can find someone who can help you out in that way or generally hope you can make a breakthrough somehow in this area.
I admit I’ve dealt with this myself and I had the same intense fear growing up due to bullying, but we have to learn to give ourselves a break. I feel like a lot of people forget that we are all mammals - physical beings that are occupying a space. Sometimes we do have sexual desires or interests, but as long as we aren’t intending on making things sexual or awkward - usually it’s all a-okay. If we offend someone else with our gaze, sometimes the best thing is to just apologize and play it off.
I think the dude you’re responding to hasn’t actually been in these situations but has fantasized about it so long that it’s bleeding into his worldview.
It gives incel tbh because those guys are always coming up with hypotheticals about women to get mad at and feel victimized by.
Maybe they are just speaking to their ADHD and living in an oversexualized, yet prude society? I just didn’t read the incel angle.
Same in Oregon.
Same in Vermont, so long as it’s not “lewd and lascivious behavior.”
Same in Washington.
Just Seattle.
Freedom visualized
There a world or Europe version?
As far as I’m aware, here in Denmark you can be nude on your property as much as you want to, as long as your nudity isn’t an attempt to make unwilling people part of some sexual thing. Like you can be naked in your front yard, but you can’t keep eye contact with people passing by while furiously masturbating. Sunbathing with your tits out though? People can look away.
Sunbathing with your tits out though? People can look away.
Eventually. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The Danes like when you watch.
That sounds kind of reasonable.
Except the folk who have been conditioned that it is basically rape to stare at unconsenting naked peope, would starve to death.
I suppose if you’re laying naked in your front yard, you consent to people taking a peek, but everything with a bit of common sense. You’re not gonna be popular around the neighborhood if you’re staring and drooling.
Oregon - Back yard, front yard, side yard, mailbox, sidewalk, so long as you aren’t being weird about it. 🤣
Same in Washington.
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“In Oregon, it is not illegal to be naked in public. We do have a public indecency law and a private indecency law, but both of those have a required element," Miller said. “It has to be for the purpose of arousal for it to be illegal. That was not the case in this issue.”
So, dude walking around with his junk hanging out? Not illegal. Dude jacking it in public? Illegal.
for the purpose of arousal
Dude jacking it in public? Illegal.
Why? As long as he is jacking it for himself it should be allowed if the purpose is the deciding element.
shit take. Having unconsenting people participate in your sex act (watching someone masturbate) is assault.
In Oregon or all over the US?
Would a brown paper bag in front of the private parts make it legal, like alcohol?
But how do you evaluate if people are unconsenting about an act before the act takes place? That’d be premature evaluation.
Would be a fun defense to try:
“Your honor, you’ve seen the video, nobody is aroused by that…”
thanks :)
Is that a typo, did you mean to say “so long as you ARE being weird about it.”? Weird, as in: naked bike ride.
🤔 can I be nude in my house even when not all windows have curtains?
What about this same scenario, but most of the non-curtained windows have plants partially obstructing them, and those that don’t would require trespassing to look into?
Who am I kidding, I don’t care. I’m gunna do it anyway.
Goddamn right.
Although, maybe I don’t want the sliding glass doors that all the neighbors can see in included in that. Maybe I should do something about that.
those are my backyard neighbors they knew what they were getting into
Well, if someone would have to put effort to see you naked, it’s their fault for being stupid. And if they have suspiciously many “accidents”, they should be viable for a SH lawsuit.
I dunno, if they have a suspicious number of accidents in their house, maybe you should stop staring through their window
i dunno. if they lack any effective window coverings i’d say it’s less of an accident, which is i guess what you’d be trying to prove.
Yeah like I can’t help that my windows point to their windows.
It cuts both ways because intent matters.
Don’t stare into people’s houses like a freak but also don’t jerk your shit spread eagle in the front bay window.
I strongly believe that if you’re looking into my window and see consensual sex acts, it’s your fault not mine.
*privilege
Why does the live free or die state always have less liberal laws than its Vermont neighbour?
They chose death 🤷♂️
It’s where a lot of law enforcement retire apparently.
NH has been a tossup state pretty much since the early 1800s. It’s a state where many preconceptions are wrong.
-grew up there
Only the square states
They should all be green. Whether it’s a good idea is a different question.
I do like the fact that it’s authorised in Hawaii but prohibited in Alaska.
Alaska: no, cuz 90% of the year you’ll fucking freeze to death, idiot
…and the other 10% you’ll get eaten alive by mosquitoes.
Yeah, there’s no way I’d bare flesh, not even shorts, during an Alaskan summer. Those mosquitoes are fricken huge.
dang, I wish I had a backyard
Oregon and Vermont, yeah, that tracks.
Colorado and New Mexico: “In this weather? It’s your funeral.”
Going nude in your backyard in November in Oregon sounds like a standard thing. We got naked bike rides so, yeah, this checks.
Seattle also allows nudity in public! We also do a big naked bike ride every summer solstice!
i would think it’d be those weeks in july/august where everyone regrets their lack of air conditioning.
Idk, sounds cold. I’d rather do ot in the summer
Miskitos.
Duct tape some citronella candles to your butt. Problem solved!
Lol nine-tailed fox
Can you imagine being a mosquito and encountering a 900,000 you tall naked monster that you used to feed on but now emits a cloud of blinding death from its butt?
You’ve got to watch out for those Lovecraftian universities.
Land of the free, bitches
Lock me up.
I used to go outside at like 2 or 3am for a sprint around my backyard nude a few times when I was like a teenager.
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