I’ve been informed that people outside UK generally don’t know or care (not caring is the correct response BTW.).
Still seems bizarre to me.
I don’t. Looks like a talk show host
I also don’t know who it is. “We have Carson Daly at home.”
Isn’t this Robbie Williams? I’ve never been in UK.
He is quite known here in Germany, take that !
Germany here, this is:
Robbie! One of the better musicians to rise from the age of boy bands.
Never heard of him.
German here. He’s super famous in Germany. I used to think he was an international superstar and only learned a couple of years ago that nobody knows him in the US. Still don’t quite understand how that happened. How is “Feel” and “Angels” not stuck in everyone’s head every once in a while?
His people made multiple attempts to break in America. It’s just… bad music. Has a distinct “Eurosheen” that isn’t inherently a negative at all, but is something that traditionally hasn’t sold well with American audiences.
So I just want to be clear: American audiences weren’t unexposed to Robbie Williams, American audiences flatly rejected Robbie Williams.
Sure, Europeans just have bad taste in music, while Americans have good taste in music. That explains everything.
No, an aesthetic difference in preference. I should have made a clearer distinction: it has the Brit-pop sound that historically hasn’t been an automatic appeal for American audiences as a barrier of entry going against him, and beyond that aesthetic difference Robbie Williams specifically does not make good enough music to have overcome said aesthetic barrier where other artists such as Spice Girls successfully have.
What makes the Spice Girls better than Robbie Williams?
A question for the ages. I am not the gatekeeper, just trying to explain the phenomenon. No amount of arguing with me is going to suddenly make Robbie a retroactive success magically
It’s just that it’s a really odd “explanation”. Good and bad depends a lot on who you ask. Millions of people would probably disagree with your judgement. I’m neither a Robbie Williams fan nor a music expert, but I’m pretty sure “his music is just bad” is not a valid explanation for the phenomenon.
ok buddy, “bad music”, really?
His music, yes. Not European music broadly, obviously.
What are those objective criteria that classify music as “bad”?
We don’t know most of the US famous people, so that’s fair.
His boyband failed to break America so he never tried as a ronin.
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Robbie something. A singer, right? (France)
I don’t know him very well. But he looks like the kind of person who would have gone and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like “I love you”. Sometime around the Millennium.
he is the OG meat suit before lady gaga was even a concept. He did a stint in rehab for ‘caffiene addiction’ (but cmon, we all know it was cocaine lol)
He is well known in australia. but since i was travelling away from there people just think im mispronouncing Robin William’s name if i bring him up.
That’s Andy Burnham, our new Prime Minister.
French guy in his late 30s here.
I recognize Robbie Williams. He had at least one song in the charts (Angels reached n°7 in France in 1997-1999).
Probably saw him on MTV at the time. Also heard him on the radio more than a few times.
Used to mix up his name with Robin Williams’ ^^Ya, once you mentioned the I thought " that’s not Robin…"
No
No.
Middle-aged French woman who never really was in the loop about pop culture: No idea whatsoever.
I thought about this over-memed wrestler, then the TV chef who screams (and whom I only know through memes.)
Then I saw a comment about Robbie sth, so I thought about Margo Robbie, who might have played Barbie. And now I’m pretty sure this man is Robbie William, who was in a boys band when I was a kid? teen? and who might have gone on to have a solo career of not-quite-as-bad music.
I gave it my all.no
Robbie!
