Who’da thunk that fence sitters would be right-wing?
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Meeting of the Centrist-Moderate Coalition (2026)
I mean, the joke of the 1930s was that National Socialism absolutely was a centrist position between Monarchism and Communism. They struck a chord with central Europeans by advocating a broad ethnic sovereignty that expanded the “in-group” of would-be aristocrats while still flattering the egos of chauvinists and religious bigots. Fascism takes the founding myths of the aristocracy and extends it to a subset of the proletariat as a means of mobilizing them as a large populist unit.
The end result is a militant faction far larger and more industrial than the royalist elites, but one that still has scapegoats and class enemies among the various minorities and small neighbors on the periphery. It really is a philosophy that lives at the “center” of the historical political discourse.
You just have to come at it recognizing politics (particularly in Europe) as even more narrow and reactionary than what Fascists advocated for publicly. You also have to recognize Fascism as fundamentally unstable and quick to collapse, either into a more egalitarian socialism or a more hierarchical aristocracy, once it exhausts itself of minorities and neighbors to plunder.
This is the worst interpretation of what fascism is I’ve ever read
how so? this is literally how the capitalist class appeals to the white working class (white here being someone with privilege and proximity to power) so that there can be an in group of class traitors who will sustain the status quo of capitalism as the inherent failures of system expose themselves.
It gets better they went bankrupt in 1986 then a second party Centre Party '86 was created went down the same path and was banned in 1998. Then there was New National Party (Netherlands) which went down the same path again and dissolved in 2005. Ive pulled this info off the Wikipedia pages so I am in no way a expert on this topic I just found the series of events funny
the grift with these chuds is strong, you’d think the rubes would wake up but… racism
Fascists often hate being called right wing. It comes from a lack of self-awareness and general lack of emotional intelligence. If you can’t understand other people and their views, you are inclined to see your own position as the reasonable center. There are also, of course, some fascists who cynically portray themselves as the center, knowing full well what they really are. The leaders of AfD and the Reform UK are examples.
Analogously, people on the right often use the word “political” as a derogation. They hate the idea of their beliefs being political, preferring to call them “common sense”.
In a nutshell, there is a commonality across many people on the right of being unable to empathize and understand perspectives outside their own. This is why they always view their own use of government benefits as justified while others are thieves or criminals, and why anyone different from them is a threat.
So in other words, narcissists with psychopathic tendencies
See also: “Silent Majority”
Of which they are neither
They had a falling out and their most well known member (Hans Janmaat) then founded the Centre Democrats. I remember Janmaat being the butt of many jokes, and for the rest he was widely ignored.
Centrists are just closeted right wingers that don’t want to be criticized for their right wing views.
Are you claiming this to be the case for the majority of earth inhabitants?
Majority are left wing
or outright cowards too afraid to have a stance on anything for fear of being wrong or unliked
Huh. Now moderates are literally Nazis.
It’s best to be an Epicurean and stay away from politics. It’s just miserable. People say, “But the ship is going to crash! You don’t care?” Sure, but when there’s a mob fisting fighting over the controls, the best thing to do is just vibe.
What a pathetic way to look at the world.
“Boy that looks hard, best just let those people die. Doesn’t affect me, I guess.”
Like I said. Of course I care, but when there’s a mob fisting fighting over the controls, it’s not just hard. It’s impossible. You guys are going to have to learn how to get along with people. When you do, I’ll quit dancing and come look at the wheel and see what I can do.
You just gave to have a dialog with the rabid pack of dogs gnawing on your legs!! Stop hitting it and talk to it!
Seriously, do you expect us to compromise with just a little genocide, as a treat? If you want the fist fight over the controls to end, and you have any preference one way or the other, then get involved. Start throwing punches.
If you don’t do that, you don’t care. You’re content to sit back in your privilege and let the chips fall where they may, safe in your knowledge that as a cis straight white male (I can only assume from the disdain dripping off your post about anyone trying to change things for the better), you will be unaffected by the goings on.
I don’t have disdain for anyone trying to change things for the better. I have an aversion to people throwing punches.
Great so you can understand that the people throwing punches are the ones TRYING TO DO A GENOCIDE THE WORLD OVER. if you think you can talk your way out of that, you’re just dumb.
I genuinely don’t believe you actually care like you say you do. It is incongruent with you decision to let the cards fall where they may.
In america*
This article is about The Netherlands.
Yet people are repeatedly likening it to actual moderate behavior and not people who pretend to be so they don’t appear to be supporting far right sentiments, even on this page rn they’re doing it.
Not every country is a authoritarian shit fest.
They aren’t extremists calling for the end of all people, only minorities they don’t like, duuuh, so they are center.
“I’m neither right not left” = far-right. Always.
Reminder that the Nazis literally called themselves National Socialists. They were the opposite of course and swiftly destroyed any trace of socialism once they were in power. That’s what far-rights do.
Yep, it’s called Fish Hook Theory:
Note that there is no such theory outside of Internet slang. There is no merit in it. Just as horseshoe theory is without merit. There are complex, underlying causes for it making so much sense, but do not be baited by comfort.
The only part of horseshoe theory that tracks is that if you go far enough left you get your guns back.
The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right.
And that those unwilling to compromise on anything with anyone tend to get authoritarians
“Horseshoe theory” is the idea that I don’t really care if I’m being killed by Hitler or Mao if I’m being killed.
The main difference between “neither left nor right” and far-right is hypocrisy.
Or sometimes denial
Don’t forget idiocy.
Some green parties tried the same nonsense for a while, though I think they all admit to being left by now. The argument was that they’d work independently of party blocks with climate as the only issue.
Of course right wing politics are always an environmental disaster, but sometimes you would see unusual constellations in local politics.
Wasn’t fascism originally about being neither right nor left, but then it got sort of absorbed (or bought out) by the right to combat the left? Thats atleast how I’ve understood it, and of course there is so much more to fascism than that but thats just how i’d summarize it
I only know that the Nazis presented themselves as the “third way” between communism and capitalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Röhm
That didn’t last long.
Just like the AfD in Germany today.
Damn, I didn’t even know Ed Sheeran was Dutch…
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Liberals creating their own political spectrum so they can pretend they arent conservatives.
Hi. Liberal here. Um… What does this have to do with Liberals?
folks from .ml tend to use the word a bit differently than you or I.
Also a bit differently to the rest of the world
Not typical for parties wearing that name. That being said the German Zentrum (CxU predecessor) did in fact happily vote with the NSDAP in favour of the enabling Act which was the major turning point in establishing Nazi Germany.
Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
North Korea
Lemmites when asked for their political position
feels like those “free speech” spaces and it ends up being mostly Racism
That’s some 1984 level shit
