• Greyghoster@aussie.zone
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    With his mental decline it is unlikely that he will be in any shape to overturn the constitution and mount a campaign. Then stranger things have happened.

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      They should, eya. Just like they should have kept him off in 2024, since he was already ineligible as an insurrectionist.

      but only a handful of states actually tried. funny how that worked.

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    no-one in the usa will enforce the constitution. So maybe just give it to him now because elon is just going to spend a billion to buy it anyway.

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    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

    Those are the exact words of the 22nd amendment. It’s explicit. There’s no ambiguity or room for other interpretations. Trump was elected twice, he’s hit his limit, that’s it.

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      Yes, and none of that prohibits him from running for office again. The only prohibition is that he cannot be elected a third time. But here’s the thing: we don’t actually vote for President; we vote for who our Electors elect as President, and they are Constitutionally prohibited from electing Trump to a third term. If Trump runs and “wins”, the Electors cannot elect him. He can win 0 Electoral votes. Doesn’t matter what their States’ laws require because the Constitution is the highest law in the land… until SCOTUS rules the 22nd Amendment violates the 10th Amendment. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

      This is why is fun to own a whole ass supreme court:

      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

      Words are fun for this guy

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      Unless those rumors are true and they did manage to game enough voting machines to clinch the election. In which case he was not actually elected twice…

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        …and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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          And that’s why Vance and the other fascists are waiting until after the midterms to get rid of trump.

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        There better be a real fucking riots in the streets across the entire damn nation if they come out with this bullshit.

        Like I mean burning down federal buildings and police stations, storming the homegrown concentration camps to free the prisoners, a literal million+ person march on Washington DC right to the front door of the White House.

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          Like the riots when an insurrectionist was allowed to run for a second term after being ruled ineligible by a State?

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            But the Roberts Court, dontchaknow, intervened and went directly against the Constitution and made a BLATANTLY unconstitutional ruling that should have invalidated literally all of their appointments.

            Trump was ineligible for the second term, whether or not the Roberts Court wanted to acknowledge it.

            And hell will freeze over before I give those judges on the Roberts Court the dignity of referring to them with the words that other people call them or that court.

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      The one weasel notion that I wonder about, what if he was elected VP and the president stepped down directly after? Then he wasn’t elected a 3rd time but placed by successions. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them try some such fuckary.

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        I don’t remember the exact wording, but basically to be eligible to be VP one must meet the eligibility requirements for being President. So he’s not eligible to be VP either.

        But I recall someone claiming that no such eligibility requirement exists for Speaker of the House, who is in the succession line after the VP.

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        It does specify that he has to be a person. Perhaps they’re going to argue he isn’t?

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          In a wild turn of events, he’s gonna change his name to Deborah and run as our first trans President, claiming the transition resulted in him being a different person.

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      Well, he can run again. It’s just moot, as he can’t be elected. If he were to get the most electoral votes, I gu3ss the runner up is elected?

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      It doesn’t matter what it says when neither courts nor law enforcement will enforce it. Looks like we’re running out of democracy boxes.

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      There’s wiggle room, he’s claiming a right to campaign. To run… He’s not saying anything about being elected.

      He doesn’t actually do the electing. That’s up to public, and the officials who are in charge of elections (who he’ll try to stack with loyalists). He can’t say what they’ll do.

      He runs, and if others elect him… Well… That’s the wiggle room.

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        That’s not wiggle room, it’s violating the Constitution. Not saying it can’t happen, but it’s not like that’s a logic loophole, it’s just not caring about acting illegally.

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      So it sounds like there’s no prohibition against running, just against winning? Sounds like an easy win for the Dems.

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        It seems pointless to run in an election you are constitutionally barred from winning. But, Trump has proven time and time again he will do pointless things. If he tried running again and somehow he won, however, the constitution is clear: it’s a no go. He can’t get elected for a third time. That said, I don’t think that’s necessarily the point. I think the point is to create chaos and crisis. Hopefully he’s not around to run in 2028 so it becomes a moot.

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    He absolutely has the right to run. He certainly does not have the right to be elected. The 22nd amendment limits him to being elected twice. By all means, he should run. If anything, it will just ensure whoever the GOP nominates won’t win with The Idiot siphoning off the fascist voters.

    However, by his own bullshit math (that he won the 2020 election), he shouldn’t be president now. The amendment specifically talks about being elected to the office more than twice. The only thing it says about serving in the office applies when someone else was elected the first time, and even then sets a limit on how many times that second person can be elected.

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        If extra-judicial execution is good enough for a one year old, then it’s good enough for the toddler in chief.

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      Who’s going to do the first step though? The police? The police that are bought and paid for by the people that should be arrested? The police that are actively murdering people in the streets instead of defending them?

      I keep seeing this “arrest them” and “put them in jail for life” sentiment but nobody has a valid argument of how to do that in our current system without getting disappeared.

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      “But what if it means two in a row!?!?!!?”

      That’s a literal claim from some Republicans.

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        No no it has to be the first term, interrupted, then second, then third. The reason? Because they need to exclude Obama from running again.

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        And why wouldn’t it be?

        To be a Republican is to be a grifter/conman/shitstain. Cheating is always on the table.

        I know it’s hard to plan for all eventualities, but I really wish the founding fathers had covered things in a little more detail.

        “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice…regardless of whether the terms are consecutive.”

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          The founding fathers didn’t come up with the 22nd amendment, that was done in the late 40’s after FDR was elected four times in a row. The founding fathers intentionally left that one open, I think

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            Yes, it was intentional. They wanted the Constitution to be revised and expanded as necessary, rather than being bad law set in stone. They were well aware they couldn’t foresee the many issues that would come up, especially over time. That’s why the Constitution is often described as a “framework” for the US’s “laboratories of democracy”.

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    Donald Trump joked with rally-goers on Thursday evening that he had “the right to run again”

    His allies have dismissed the president’s claims as a joke.

    We know where you stand guardian, didn’t need to tell on yourself that directly.

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      The Guardian has always condemned Trump

      They have consistently pointed out his corruption, failures and all the bullshit

      If you think The Guardian is supportive of Trump in any way, I question your level of media literacy

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    He doesn’t, obviously, per law.

    Though law no longer matters and he will anyway, if he doesn’t die before then, which I think he will since his dementia is so advanced. But whatever.