So the goal all along was pretext to force women to show men their hoo has?
While bathroom bills are explicitly aimed at trans folk, generally it’s the non-gender conforming cis crowd that actually gets challenged IRL. Which isn’t a bug, but a feature to control and enforce two clean arbitrary distinctions. Almost always some poor butch lesbian being accosted by the gender police and told to pee safely they need some makeup.
There is more to being a man than a tie, and more to being a woman than a dress. Humand are infinitely more complex than those old strict boundaries. This sort of attack is just a impotent attempt to force back the 1920’e statud quo.
A few years ago, my cis friend got harassed at a bathroom by a woman who didn’t bat an eye at me (trans) being there
They say “we can always tell” and then go harass other cis folk. It’s be funnier if it wasn’t so sad.
Carry pepper spray, end these interrogations as quickly as they begin.
Carry a gun.
Both will result in you getting shot
That’s the thing about wars. You can only get lucky for so long.
But they started it and I ain’t going quietly.
Then start abducting or assassinating politicians
Shooting a lost uber driver never changed anyone’s mind
Viva la resistance
Disappointed but not surprised that the sexual assailant in this article has not been charged with anything yet, let alone sexual assault…
Calling someone a creep for not matching your gender appearance expectations, as at least one of the women in line for the bathroom did to this lady, is also arguably sexual harassment. But nobody’s going to bring any consequences against the woman that did that. Typical cis woman weaponizing false victimhood and then disappearing into the background with zero consequences and possibly zero self reflection.
We should all misgender every MAGAt male who enters the men’s bathroom. And tell them that pussies are not allowed in there.
Topic: Jd Vance is a trans man. He uses the “wrong” bathrooms at the White House.
Change my mind.
Fuck yeh
Start standing at the entrance to male toilets in conservative meetups, demanding to see everyone’s (micro-) penis.
New way to avoid becoming the Nazi Bar. Ask them for ID before they can use the bathroom.
They’re probably going to ignore you and go on about their business like adults.
Huh, offtopic, I didn’t know there were derby parties outside Kentucky
That’s sexual assault.
Whew, can’t say I’m surprised to already see mods abusing their powers to censor discussion of this topic.
What discussion? You really wanna harass women in the bathroom?
🤦
What would you like to discuss? How to mind your own business?
If anyone ever corners me in a bathroom and tries to look at my genitals I’m stabbing them
Security asked for ID so at least that was clickbait. Apparently this happened WHILE they were inside the stall btw.
Security literally started banging on the door full force demanding they open it while people are doing their business.
Between what?
If someone confronts you in a hateful way about your gender like this, maybe you suddenly become afraid for your safety (valid!) and spray them in the face with pepper spray.
When people ask what happens say you became afraid the stranger was trying to hurt you and put your body under threat because they were.
Might go over better in court if you wait until after they are asking to see your private parts.
Better to just carry a gun and asking questions later. Make sure they know why they were killed before they die. Tell them to their face as they lay dying. “You die because you’re a sack of shit.”
A gun is not an appropriate solution to this, non lethal response is a better solution, and will provide you MUCH better protection in court afterwards. Murder\Manslaughter charges can fuck you over very easily, even if you THINK you are defending yourself.
And before anyone thinks I’m anti-gun. I have a CC license and I have hunted for 30+ years.
No judgement to anyone, but I think pepper spray is a better option here because bigots want you to be a threat which makes resisting hard because resistance can be so easily propagandized as a violent threat.
If you spray someone in the face with pepper spray, well… it is much harder to make the argument you are a violent threat vs. that person was being a fucking creep and making you feel uncomfortable because you were alone with a stranger in a bathroom being accosted about details of your gender and body that have NOTHING to do with them.
It is 2025, I am not going to judge trans people or other vulnerable groups for taking their safety into their own hands, just be mindful of how you do it and consider how you can subvert the toxic attempt to narrativize your actions as evil.
A man barging into a private room with you alone. That alone is a threat of bodily harm and depending on the state. You are within your rights to consider it a lethal threat and can stand your ground. I suggest shooting the head or heart. Don’t injure. Shoot to kill. Just my opinion on clowns coming after people to prove their sex.
Look at this point if I see someone giving a trans/queer coded person shit/hurting them/threatening to hurt them I am going to assume my job is to get as many nearby people to notice and shut that shit down by sheer force of normal people crowding out the couple violent fascist assholes because they can’t do anything to a quickly growing crowd of angry normal people…
…so I am really not interested in judging queer people too hard on any reaction they have right now as a cisgender hetero white dude.
I am so mad, I think I could honestly convince most normal people to intervene with their bodies in a situation like that if there were enough people around, anti-trans beliefs aren’t that popular and most normal people are fucking tired of it and just want politicians to make their lives materially better and the more they hear about rightwing gender bullshit violence thinly veiled as pseudo-science the more creeped out they get about the weird obsessions of the rightwing that motivates these pathetic vessels of hate.
The problem of course, and what we are talking about, is when nobody but a queer coded person and a fascist are around, and I have no grounds to pass any judgement in how queer people choose to respond in that space.
I don’t rock a gun ever. But I’m a 6’2 dude pushing 280lbs and a power lifter. I’ve had enough experience doing security. Where people have tried to assault my patrons. Including trans, gay and minority individuals. I have no patience for that shit. If I see it. I stop it. And so far I haven’t had to use lethal force. But I’m ready. Just I use my bare hands.
Not defending the idea of vigilante justice for bathroom perverts – but even if so, why would it be important that they know why they were killed?
Malice. Revenge.
It’s a good reason people like @cocopanda don’t have a significant impact on how people behave in the real world.
You shouldn’t even exist.
Wow, you’re replying to all of my comments.
It’s pretty weird.
God forbid you take a shit in the vicinity of someone with different genitalia. The entire bathroom debacle is straight up childish.
Good god, imagine them even looking different! At a certain point, I don’t even care about the genitals, I just don’t think women should be allowed to cut their hair or wear jeans or shoes (/s I don’t even know what I’m channeling at this point)
You’re probably channeling the type of Americans who don’t travel outside of their own country or if they do they only ever hang out in a Starbucks at the airport cuz anything non American scares them too much.
Oof especially arabic alphabet. They treat it like eldritch runes.
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This conversation is way above your head. Toddle off now.
Is it because I’m saying truths you don’t like?
So Tomboys and Butch women are illegal now, got it.
why not just rip the bandaid off and start saying only blonde white women are good, you’ve got Vince McMahon’s wife in the inner circle afterall…
What’s the difference between a tomboy and a butch woman?
Butch implies they’re sapphic, tomboy does not.
butch is more masculine
So Tomboys and Butch women are illegal now
🤦
got it.
So ironic.
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So pissing in a bowl is considered sexual assaulting women now? Wtf? Not like she did it out in public fucking hell America is making itself look shittier and shittier every day now
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Again, you should just disappear.
My response would have been “you first”…
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Step 1: Raise concern
Step 2: Security calmly lets the person know that some of the other patrons are feeling uncomfortable because they think the person is male/female.
Step 3: Person will say they’re female or identify as one.
Step 4: Security says OK (maybe apologize for the inconvenience).
Step 5: Let other patrons know. Anyone still uncomfortable can wait until the person leaves or use a different toilet.
That’s really it. There’s no reason for an officer to ask for proof or ask them to get out if all they’re doing is using the bathroom.
I think some of the snarky replies you are getting is a result of users assuming you’re asking a hypothetical just to ruffle feathers when the answer to your question is this simple.
Thanks for the rational response.
Step 3: Person will say they’re female or identify as one.
Is identifying as the opposite sex really something that is commonplace now? Usually these discussions center around identifying as a ‘woman,’ which is why I was specifically referring to sex in my question.
What if patrons who would be upset over having a male in the female restroom don’t care what the male identifies as?
What if it was a dragon eating the patrons, would it be acceptable then?
IT WASNT A MAN, THATS THE POINT
None of this ever was an issue in the past until Republicans started pushing bullshit natives that noone cared about before to keep people distracted with a shiny turd whole they rob the state blind
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What if you fucked off and never came back here?
Yikes.
This is what happens when you’re faced with rationality. Can’t say I’m surprised.
How is minding your own business irrational?
Dang, now you have to argue in bad faith.
Can’t say I expected more.
Please use a good-faith interpretation of my question and explain how projecting your bigoted opinions on others is rational.
I gotta ignore you now. You’re going to keep throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
Goodbye.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Too bad your “just asking questions” bad faith conservative drivel doesn’t work here and gets pushback. Maybe Twitter is more your speed.
History has shown us that if a man wants to go into a women’s bathroom to harass or assault women, he doesn’t usually get all disguised to do it.
Why would a rapist pretend to be a trans woman in a society that treats rapists better than trans women?
And they are usually white men. In a security guard outfit.
Or pageant owners…
Yeah and (at least in this case) if he’s a security guard, he just walks right on in!
