For context, this is in Worcester, MA. Fairly Democrat and progressive area. It’s not like this was happening in Ohio or Nebraska.
Fuck 'em up!
This is Trump’s America.
Notice how she speaks perfect English. This is clearly someone who doesn’t belong in the US /s
What a fucking joke of a country.
Maybe installing a government run by neo-Nazis was a bad idea?
Why aren’t Americans shooting at ICE agents. It’s that what the 2nd amendment was for?
“We don’t have to show you anything,” one agent reportedly shot back when asked for ID or a warrant.
“The crowd was unruly,” police said in a statement, claiming several individuals “put their hands on federal agents and Worcester officers.”
There’s no reason to believe that they’re federal agents if they refuse to show ID. And there’s no law against putting your hands on gang members kidnapping one of your neighbors while impersonating federal agents. These dipshits are out of control and fucking stupid.
I’m just pleading for them to do this to the wrong set of people who take 2A seriously.
Extremely surprising that it didn’t happen yet.
Liberals in America should be arming themselves and stockpiling ammo.
Man fuck what that orange fucking pile of shit turned my country into. I hope he dies bleeding from the eyeballs.
Joseph Petty call and write the mayor and demand all charges dropped and these people released.
https://www.worcesterma.gov/mayor
Do not stop.
This is not okay, and it is not a product of the legal system. When the system fails the people, it’s up to the people to deny the system its power. Good on those neighbors getting involved and pushing back.
Soooo those 2nd amendment rights are a joke? Guns were bought just to show off at the range and with buddies?
Trump and his cronies are gonna get your guns its not a matter of if but when.
Rise the fuck up.
Trump doesn’t need to come after guns. It’s pretty obvious at this point that nobody is using them or ever will. Americans may talk tough about guns but they aren’t a threat to the fascists.
I concur. Any portion of society that would have the will of resistance has been convinced that only fascists have guns therefore it’s the fascists that have all the guns.
Right, but he’s dismantling the constitution piece by piece its coming, not a matter of if but when
There has to be millions like me out there that are willing to fight I refuse to believe 200+ million Americans are gonna roll over.
So when you all gonna use all those guns you buy to defend yourself
The people opposed to ICE aren’t the ones that buy the guns.
I don’t think that’s correct. Plenty of us on the left have firearms, we just don’t make it our entire personality.
I’d very much like to see a similar study done more currently, but I can’t turn one up from my halfhearted looking around.
That has been changing. We’re not buying them as fast but we’re buying them.
Do you have a source for that? I’ve been digging around some looking for information but other than the national exit polls (which removed the question more than a decade ago I guess?) I can’t find any credible studies on it. It would be reassuring (well, kind of…) were you right, but anecdotal evidence and all that
You are wholefully incorrect. There is a lot of people on both sides that own guns. America has more guns then it has people. Sooooo no.
America also has more cows than it has people, and lego is the largest tire manufacturer in the world. While true that some liberals also own guns, for example I am a liberal and I own a gun, I’m not sure how it’s relevant beyond that (admittedly) situationally self-evident truth. Gun culture is centered around, and the vast majority of firearms are owned by, conservatives.
That’s a shame
What a cop out. Every citizen has the same access. For years you have had very good reason to arm and train yourselves. Your country is where it is because you all refuse to fight for it. Rather blame everything you can.
Every citizen has the same access
sad California noises
While California does have a lot more regulation around guns, I don’t think it’s necessary prohibitive. As much as the right claims it is.
We’ve got a written test, takes all of 20 minutes, not difficult if you have common sense and all the questions are online.
Then you have to demonstrate to the salesman that you can safely operate the firearm (load and unload). I’d hope someone purchasing a firearm would be capable of this.
Finally there’s the 10 day cooldown period. So you can’t walk out same day with the gun. I do think this one is kinda annoying. It totally makes sense for your first gun, but why do I have to wait every time?
The rest just comes down to model and configuration availability. Restricted to the handgun roster, but there’s still a decent amount available. Restricted to 10 round magazines, I don’t like this one either. And generally to featureless shotguns and rifles.
But if you wanted to, you could go today and start the purchase of a featureless AR15-style rifle with a detachable 10 round magazine. And you’d pick it up 10 days from now. So I don’t think it’s extremely prohibitive.
Mmmhm.
Once upon a time, in a distant land, a person arrived near a police vehicle while a crowd surrounding the vehicle was argumentative and loud. They dropped a few caltrops and nudged them under the wheels with their toe.
Once upon a time, in a distant land, a guy with a cordless drill disabled some police vehicles in a speed-run. Sadly they had no RC car to mount it on (note: some cleanliness, testing and engineering skills required) or they could have called it a “rig” and proclaimed “drill, baby, drill”.
The one story I read had the person doing those things leaving their phone at home and wearing things to shield their face. Some of the stories I’ve heard also include the main character putting a small rock in their shoe in order to alter their gait to avoid potential detection based on it.
Cool stories…
This reminds me of V for Vendetta
Don’t get me wrong, I loved that movie. But when I grew up a bit I realized that in the pivotal moment, the military would ABSOLUTELY have gunned down that crowd of people wearing masks. It’s happened before, a lot.
A people should not be afraid of it’s government, a government should be afraid of it’s people.
And when the government isn’t afraid ofbthe people, what then?
They should have attacked the
ICEgestapo agents.Melt the ICE.
That’s next.
Those who abjure violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.
People should start learning how to make thermite and how to immobilize vehicles.
It’s way simpler than that. Gather styrofoam, rags and glass bottles from the alleyways. Get you some gasoline. The rest is known well. All you need is a shopping cart and a container to hold gas. If you have doubts watch news footage of the citizen response in Ukraine to Russian invasion.
So um… what’re you gonna do with the thermite?
No seriously, I used to do aluminothermic welding, trust me when I say it’s an extremely frustrating substance to use. And on top of that, it is incredibly conspicuous. Unless you both know what you’re doing and what you’re doing can only be done by introducing a huge thermal mass (for example, screwing up a precision bearing surface on a piece of equipment. Note that you can’t really cut through material with thermite without using a burnout mold), there are way better ways to accomplish the task. It’s just not a great choice, and everything a theoretical citizen resistance would feasibly be doing could be done better, faster and safer (for you) with either some gasoline or bolt cutters…
Citizen sabotage was taught by the CIA as an effective way for insurgents in a country we wanted to topple to hurt their defensive and warmaking power.
The best tactic in this regard; incompetence.
Just get a job where you help them. But be bad at it.
Lose papers. Email things backwards. Leave messes. Pour the wrong chemicals in the wrong thing. Send messages on Monday instead of Friday. Spoil supplies by making them wet and letting them rot.
add journalists and random civilians to military operation group chats
Isn’t that a little too obvious though?
Good thing the enemy has already done half the work in this regard
A man of culture I see.
They won. They got exactly what they wanted, plus anybody who tried to intervene got arrested along the way. From the headline I thought it would be more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZcoXdZeabA . There’s still massive problems here and our version of ICE have got away with a lot but thankfully nowhere near this stage
It’s a start. People see others standing up, so they will, too, and it will grow. Eventually we will reach a tipping point.
We should praise the act of defiance, without regard for the outcome. They won this time, but not without a fight. Soon they will have a fight every time. Then they will have to choise between escalating, or finding a new strategy. Either way, they are being forced to react involuntarily.
It’s better that we’re all arrested rather than do nothing but watch.
But what if they made Internet posts about guillotines while they watched?
I completely agree and think you can’t arrest everyone but I don’t see that happening though. Look at the numbers on the street. If more people surrounded them so they could not physically leave, it might be different. What I see is a few brave people trying to stop them and not succeeding, and everyone else staying inside or filming from afar
There were more than 25 people on the scene protesting and asking for warrants etc. this was on very scant notice. I’d call that pretty decent turnout. Then there was a much larger march down the streets of Worcester. Read some of the independent reports. They corroborate and tell an aligned narrative.
That’s why guns exists and your right to use them also exists. The 2nd amendment has never been more important then now…last time it was in the 1860s…
Yep cause the moment they arrest everyone the leeches will die like every other fucking parasite without a host.
