To be fair, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Because the current business model is mass surveillance, selling people’s data, harvesting every tiny bit of user attention and manipulate them, making everything an outrage, confining people into filter bubbles, endless annoyances and enshittification… I wouldn’t make me super sad if that were to die… So if it’s just the title… go ahead. Sadly there is more to the story. And also Cloudflare isn’t exactly healthy for the internet. (And their bot detection doesn’t work very well in practice.)
Cloudflare is stellar. I just bought tickets to SeaWorld and my mobile phone was successfully blocked from being able to open the automatically emailed link with the ticket pdf in it. Top notch security.
I don’t think there is a valid reason to this. I mean they offer several other services as well. But I think many, many people use it instead of other web application firewalls, because Cloudflare are good snake-oil salesmen and everyone else is using it too, so it must be valid. And there is a free tier, and nobody cares giving away their and their customer’s private data and introducing one big single point of failure to the internet…
Sure. I edited my comment. I didn’t want to imply the thing after that will be any better… That’s still open to debate. It’s likely not going to get better. Though, if we keep the tracking and surveillance, it’s not really changing the business model. So there’s that.
There is a change. Instead of people engaging with the shitty data harvesting voluntarily due to being unaware it is being forced on everyone including those who are aware.
I can guarantee all the ‘opt out’ choices are lies and they are harvesting the data anyway.
I’ve never had a look at the code of a major commercial platform, so I don’t really know whether those options do something. But sure. I’m not relying on it too much. I regularly decline and switch everything off. And I hope they at least honor my setting to not sell my data to third parties… But I don’t invest a lot of time into this, I don’t trust them so I rather avoid giving them too much data in the first place.
I’m curious how they’re going to monetize services like ChatGPT. Whether they put ad banners on the website and app, or make the chatbot recommend certain products to you…
To be fair, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Because the current business model is mass surveillance, selling people’s data, harvesting every tiny bit of user attention and manipulate them, making everything an outrage, confining people into filter bubbles, endless annoyances and enshittification… I wouldn’t make me super sad if that were to die… So if it’s just the title… go ahead. Sadly there is more to the story. And also Cloudflare isn’t exactly healthy for the internet. (And their bot detection doesn’t work very well in practice.)
Cloudflare is stellar. I just bought tickets to SeaWorld and my mobile phone was successfully blocked from being able to open the automatically emailed link with the ticket pdf in it. Top notch security.
It amazing how every fucking service needs Cloudflare connection on top…
I know there is a valid reason for this… Allegedly but it surely would make it easy for a threat actor to correlate your actions
I don’t think there is a valid reason to this. I mean they offer several other services as well. But I think many, many people use it instead of other web application firewalls, because Cloudflare are good snake-oil salesmen and everyone else is using it too, so it must be valid. And there is a free tier, and nobody cares giving away their and their customer’s private data and introducing one big single point of failure to the internet…
Thank you for additional context. I did hear about that fucking free tier… Its like that guy in prison… Shit ain’t free!
Ai is enhancing the mass surveillance model not ripping it down.
Sure. I edited my comment. I didn’t want to imply the thing after that will be any better… That’s still open to debate. It’s likely not going to get better. Though, if we keep the tracking and surveillance, it’s not really changing the business model. So there’s that.
There is a change. Instead of people engaging with the shitty data harvesting voluntarily due to being unaware it is being forced on everyone including those who are aware.
I can guarantee all the ‘opt out’ choices are lies and they are harvesting the data anyway.
I’ve never had a look at the code of a major commercial platform, so I don’t really know whether those options do something. But sure. I’m not relying on it too much. I regularly decline and switch everything off. And I hope they at least honor my setting to not sell my data to third parties… But I don’t invest a lot of time into this, I don’t trust them so I rather avoid giving them too much data in the first place.
I’m curious how they’re going to monetize services like ChatGPT. Whether they put ad banners on the website and app, or make the chatbot recommend certain products to you…