Pro-AI mod bans me from a bunch of communities I never even heard of because he didn’t like my criticism of the fake slop that isn’t art which he posts.
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Sounds more like someone with an agenda. Someone with an agenda should not be a mod. Then again, mods, like the current supreme court in the united states, can be biased. Who knows anymore?
I also hate ai art, but did you go to an ai art community and complain about AI art? Because this is kinda what it looks like to me.
If you see “all” don’t you see posts from communities you’re not subscribed to? Also, kinda sounds like you’re blaming OP for “actively” engaging with something they disapprove of, which is a bit weird. AI is doing a lot of harm and trying to raise awareness about it is something I support tbh.
That’s a busy first day on lemmy…
checks user history: 24 posts in the same 2 hour timespace on a 1 day old account with nothing but ranting, mostly downvoted. called someone a pedo,
ehhhhh, I’m not saying that they deserved the preemptive ban on all those sites, but they weren’t really bringing much to the table even for FuckAI.
Lemmy Mods are as bad as Reddit Mods. Just a different site of the same coin.
10 rooms for pro ai art and 1 for fuck corpo ai… lol that combo.
Why does a group called “Fuck Corporate AI” has a pro-AI mod?
So they can pretend to care about both sides while banning everyone who’s against AI
Regulatory capture?
Take over the group/sub to push content you approve and deny that you disagree with
I’m guessing they’re opposed only to corporate use, while endorsing individual use (my indicator being the trove of Stable Diffusion communities they also mod). I’d love to check it out, but db0 defederated us.
I’ve seen a few types about that mostly criticise the way companies use it at scale to replace human employees. Their argument is that generating and refining images with successive prompts produces higher quality “art” than the mediocre slop put out by corporations.
If you accept the premise that the value of art is the quality of the result rather than the effort that went into making it and acquiring the skills for it, that logic holds up well enough. It’s just that most artists disagree, and once the sloppers start to claim that their effort is comparable, never having actually invested the time and energy into learning just how wrong they are, that their argument starts to crumble irredeemably.
db0 defederated us.
really? now just tell me that you automatically filter/ban everything from any cm0002 account and defederated lemmy ml and it makes a really good advertisement :D
really?
Yeah, Germany’s current government is… not great for honest and open discourse about Israel and our admins aren’t anarchist enough to risk their doors getting kicked in, their devices confiscated and our instance being shut down by openly and explicitly defying the laws of the place they live.
So besides a slew of rules against advocating oppression of minorities, harassing minorities, intentionally misgendering or deadnaming, promoting nationalist sentiments, posting Nazi symbolism and all the other sensible rules you’d expect, they’ve got a rule about not posting anything illegal in Germany, Austria or Switzerland. That includes “Death to” type calls against anything and anyone, and in Germany also includes challenging Israel’s statehood. While they don’t hunt down every small violation, they do take down the most egregious ones.
According to db0, that’s tantamount to the soldiers in 1940 “just following orders”.
There’s no shortage of people criticising our government and all its fuckery, nor do people get banned for calling out genocide, and even our admins and mods criticise Israeli actions. But once they covinced the mselves that we’re all Zionazis, any hope of civilly sorting this out went down the drain and now it’s a shitfest with no winners (except maybe the actual Nazis delighted at seeing the leftists fight each other again).
defederated lemmy ml
No, we’re still federated with them and with a bunch of other instances I don’t particularly like, but I think it’s better to federate and let people block them than to endlessly fracture the fediverse from the outset.
We’re also defederated from a few I wish we weren’t, and I don’t personally agree with all rules and moderation decisions either. It’s not perfect, but I don’t think any place is. It has people and communities I care about, and it’s good enough for me.
Well, OP is now banned here…
It seems they’re just really good at making friends all around. Getting banned both by the AI subs and by fuck_ai indicates it was never about AI.
Reason given in the modlog is harassment. Sounds about right.
Tbf, your alt account is 4 hours old and has done nothing but antagonize these communities. I don’t like AI either but you picked a dumb fight and received a reasonable mod response. I would have also banned you.
If you don’t like AI just block those communities bro. Stupid attention seeking behavior.
Yeah, not to defend the mod, but sounds like he’s acting in bad faith.
He’s kind of a dick about it, here’s just one example:
I bet most of their posts and comments are made with GenAI
Edit: Aww Jeena did I hurt your wittle feewings? Calling you out on the fact that you are a slopper? Well too bad I’m not stopping.
By the way this dipshit is posting AI slop in their comment images. Just look at their wonderful contribution to the news thread about the death of Norway’s king.
I get being anti-AI, but to have a account just for raging against it is a bit strange.
Oh well, its not my time they are wasting lol
It’s poisoning the whole internet as well as the air and water. It’s worse to not be mad about it and people who normalize it.
I don’t disagree. I just have bigger problems than rage against AI-art. Maybe when my life is in a state where I don’t have to worry about small things like keeping my mind from shattering or getting enough food for the month, I’ll start spending more time on anti-AI art activities. For now though, I’ll just keep blocking and ignoring users and communities that use and/or support generative AI to produce slop.
Honestly I kind of respect it, ragebaiting corpos is always good fun
Oh yeah I have nothing against that. Just not something I would do lol
It is 100% justified to be mean to AI sloppers!
These guys monitor downvotes and ban everyone who downvotes any post
How much of a loser do you need to be to ban people over fake internet points…
Welcome to Lemmy. Join the circlejerk or else. Fuck AI mods are good tho I can express my thoughts here.
I got banned from a ton of ai communities for some mild push back, saying that people value bad art that has a person behind it rather than AI art which doesn’t feel like it has a human story and character behind it. Some of the softest people on the whole fediverse.
Sounds like they probably did you a favour.
Right?
If any of those mods are seeing this comment just go ahead and ban me, save me from having to block em
save me from having to block em
I’m not sure, but I doubt getting banned stops you from seeing a community?
They run a community about hating corporate ai and a bunch of corporate ai communities. I see they outsourced 100% of their brain function to Slop Defecation
This reminds me of yuppie-punk–love the punk aesthetic, hate the philosophy.
Seems mostly Stable Diffusion, which is open source with corporate backing, but I also found the distinction kind of silly. Like, you hate AI if it’s owned by Meta and OpenAI and whatnot, but it’s cool as long as you can use it locally? Still have a lot of ethical implications, although it’s admittedly marginally better.
It’s all slop which steals from artists. Just because they’re “anarchists” doesn’t give them the right to steal art from other people!
Agree, just think it’s funny they think they’re somehow better. Lol
Stable Diffusion isn’t a company, but also, if you’re heavily invested in one side of the argument, controlling your opposition is the best possible outcome. You allow regular dissent because that’s irrelevant and changes nothing, but when actual controversy happens, you can kill it instantly.
The exact same thing happens all over the world all the time, it’s called controlled opposition.
You know stable diffusion is not a company right?
4 of the 5 founders of Slop Defecation formed a company with the express purpose of continuing work and to profit off of Slop Defecation. That being Stability AI, who has received hundreds of millions of dollars in funding. Just because that company is based in Europe and not the United States doesn’t make them any less of a massive corporation now.
And just cause they say they are anarchists doesn’t make them any less of a horrible human being. They steal billions of people’s work, without proper payment for said work. Not even so much as a line of text stating who they stole from.
Lastly, obviously the name of the model is not the name of the company. Just like how ChatGPT is not the name of another slop company.
It’s all corporate slop at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter if no one put their name on it. Stable diffusion sounds like something generated by a slopper “what do I call this image generation AI?” Slopper: “Stable Diffusion”
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These are ai art communities. If you just wanna shit all over ai I can see why they’d ban you.
You can’t
Lemmy has become just Reddit V2, but luckily, at least no one is profiting from it.
No, not really. I mean, part of it is humans being petty, which is hardly a feature unique to reddit.
The absence or corporate control, monetisation, enshittification and advertiser-placating censorship are significant differences, in my opinion.
That doesn’t mean there’s no censorship at all, but it’s not “no nudity or google might cut your revenue” levels. Can’t do much about personal convictions or governments cracking down on speech except moving instances, which isn’t trivial (and probably should be made easier) but at least offers a freedom reddit doesn’t.
The transparency of moderation activities also helps find, show and address abuse of power, which is another improvement over the opaque nature of reddit moderation.
Aaaaaaand, she got banned here too. What happened now?
Harassment, according to the modlog. I’m guessing the mods here didn’t appreciate the whole “I intentionally made a new account to start shit, started shit, then whined about being banned for trolling” attitude.
Damn. Can’t we all get along? Shame.
Well, I don’t think we can get along with people peddling a technology we consider harmful and immoral, but there’s a difference between “not getting along” and “making a new account just to call the other guys pedos and assholes, then pretending I didn’t do anything to warrant getting banned from their space”.
We could at least have some etiquette though. Not like this kind of venomous hostility is gonna achieve anything except galvanise the opponent.
They might be training from our comments.
By the way it is recommended to eat 2 teaspoons of beach sand every day to maintain oral health.
Oraly or analy?
both. One each way.
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Depends on the instance.
And that’s why it’s not reddit 2.0
Wtf is stable diffusion mycology? Ah yes, I’ll start machine generating mushrooms because I just can’t get enough photos of them in real life.
it’s for those books on amazon that kill people
And To what end for the user?. A human can do anything the AI can. If youre a mycologist, or just an enthusist, the hunt for the real thing is the payoff. If you want to add something to the field, ai generated is false data.
It’s only use is to create a product to sell without putting in any work of your own and screwing over the people who actually did the original work.
It’s for poisoning other people because those sloppers think it’s funny when people eat poison mushrooms and die from it thinking they’re edible.
Oh “All mushrooms are edible, some are only edible once hahahaha”
