• sumguyonline@lemmy.world
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    They are silent because the democrat party wanted all of of the power they refused to curbed. You wanna call Republicans fascists, well the leadership is, but so is Democrats leadership. We desperately need to remove both parties from all aspects of OUR government.

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    I mean Americans oversaw the transfer of power to fascists.

    Sure Biden/Kamala should be issuing a warning, although they already have, many times. But the situation we find ourselves in is squarely on Americans.

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    Remember, the Democrats aren’t allowed to call the Republicans fascists. It might hurt their feelings, and the Dem’s corporate masters don’t want any Republicans to have their feelings hurt. That’s why “weird” got tossed to the wayside despite being effective, that’s why Biden was chastised for calling Trump garbage, and that’s why even though Trump was “an enormous threat to our democracy,” the Dems refused to call a spade a spade. Meanwhile, Republicans are allowed to scrape the shit from their ass and sling it wherever they want.

    What did you really expect the controlled opposition to do? Give a rousing speech about the tough times ahead? Inspire worker solidarity? The DNC is the poster child for corrupt old boomers, they do not give a fuck. They made millions of dollars off this election and will see zero consequence.

    • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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      What I expect from Democrats in power is spinelessness and acquiescence, and they almost always deliver.

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      And yet, you all would vote for them in the blink of an eye again if the opportunity presented itself

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        Well, sure. You’re either with Team D or you’re with The Terrorists.

        All we can do is vote for Dems. And when we do vote for Dems, all we can do is vote for the least offensive-to-conservatives Dems, in hopes that Liz Cheney can break away enough angry racist Memaws and Pep Peps to swing the election.

        And when that fails, all we can do is blame those damned leftists for parading around with their stupid little “Stop Doing Genocide In Gaza” placards, because that’s obviously the reason Donald Trump is president.

        Then we need to organize and unionize and agitate and protest for a few weeks in January when its the least influential or effective. After which we need to be reasonable and serious about compromising with the moderate wing of fascism again.

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        Hey, don’t fucking lump me in with those assholes. I’ve been calling out the Blue MAGA bullshit from the second .world started pushing it.

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    Statement of caution? Americans are about to get what they asked for and if I was Biden, I’d steal half the shit on my way out and pardon all my family and friends. It’s clear that those are the rules now, so may as well take advantage of it before giving up the presidency. But American voters and those who stayed home can fuck right off and enjoy the next 4 years and keep their mouth shut.

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          their entire campaign was based on it. come on now bud don’t be dense. it was a shit campaign but it was 100% about what a damage trump was. they lost because they brought nothing else to the table and that was the problem.

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    In speech this week, Biden boasted about making the US so much stronger militarily that sets up Trump for “success”.

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      In another speech, or maybe the same one, he patted himself on the back for leaving Trump the strongest economy evah!

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      Either it’s civility, or it’s compromise and reaching across the aisle, but of course even compromise must always be done with great civility.

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    The peaceful transfer of power to fascists from fascists

    Lets be real. This wouldn’t have happened if the dems weren’t also genocidal trash.

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    They spent their admin continuing many of Trump’s worst policies. Even put his deportation and fossil fuel extraction numbers to shame.

    They’re not worried about it.

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    They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don’t.

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      False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.

      And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.

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        OP isn’t wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn’t show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.

        But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.

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        Don’t forget the last 4 years of failing to deliver any meaningful improvements for the people who voted in 2020 or even stopping republicans from banning abortion. Also a year and a half of facilitating genocide while encouraging universities to beat the shit out of the very same politically-active students who would otherwise be campaigning for the democrats.

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          What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy? That doesn’t excuse them from not taking the gloves off and being very vocal about the roadblocks.

          Gaza, while an issue is not moving the needle for the majority of voters.

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            What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy?

            Use executive orders. Instead of asking the SCOTUS to tell texas to remove the child drowning fence across the rio, and look like you don’t actually want it gone, send in a tank to tear it out. The commander in chief can just do that. They can also order military hospitals to provide women with reproductive healthcare.

            Did you not remember the Trump administration, where he’d try something new every week, and even if it did get shut down, getting told “no” after you’ve already accomplished what you wanted is better than not trying at all.

            Appoint a head of the DoJ that would throw Trump in prison and investigate Manchin’s family.

            Appoint a head of the DEA who would actually reschedule cannabis. You don’t need congress for these things.

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      Netanyahu started a war with Palestine to get liberals pissed off at Democrats who basically have their hands tied due to the Jewish relationship with Dems and Israel being tied to our national security.

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        hands were not tied. thats a myth. the jewish community itself was divided over gaza. they would not have lost enough votes from the zionists for it to matter if harris bothered promise upholding existing american laws. meanwhile they lost critical demographics in key in two swing states that did cost them those states while simultaneously showing every minority group in the nation that they’re willing to toss any of them under the bus.

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      Oh boy, now you’re gonna get all the “no, it’s Democrats’ fault that I didn’t vote!” people desperately trying to assuage the guilt they’re feeling for the idiotic decision that they made in the face of countless people pleading with them not to.

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        I voted for Kamala. The blame is 100% on her and the Democrats for losing. Let’s forget policy entirely and look at their strategic choices. They didn’t hold a primary despite 60% of their own voters wanting a different candidate. They hid signs of Biden’s cognitive decline until they were too public to ignore. When it was clear he could not win, they appointed a successor who failed to win a single state in 2020. She then went on to hire the same people who lost to Trump in 2016, and they lost again by running the same strategy of, “court disaffected Republicans,” which failed n 2016.

        It is the job of a political party to get people to vote for their candidate. The party failed to do this through spectacular incompetence. They are the only people who should feel guilty.

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        This is a real “whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better”. Somehow everyone is compelled to vote for politicians who are complicit in a genocide, but not to vote for anyone else - by the overwhelming argument of “it’s what a lot of people voted for last time so we have to keep doing it”.

        And it’s not the fault of the people who voted for the fascist that you’re focused on - or your own fault for voting for someone who’s also a fascist, but more subtle about it - no, it’s only the people who didn’t vote for any kind of fascist, who are at fault for the fascist being elected. I’m sure you think this logic is completely sane and not just the entire reason we have bipartisan fascism and support for genocide in the U.S., not to even get into the global empire.

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      Poor Biden and Harris right? They did their bestest but if the people dont like them then maybe they just won’t talk to them anymore. Good thing we have some adults in the room.

      Guess who made an absurd amount of money losing the election? Do people not realize what donations are spent on?

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    What do you want them to do? Barricade themselves in the Oval Office and go out in a blaze of glory?

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    People who hate democrats calling for the democrats to overthrow the US government to save them after voting third party. Lol.

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      after voting third party

      after not bothering to vote at all.

      Edit: You can downvote if you like, but 88 million Americans sat on their arses instead of going out to prevent this shit show. That’s 11 million more than voted for either candidate.

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      It’s always the same tune with these “folks”.

      They shoot themselves in the foot and go online to lament about how they’re oppressed now and it’s gotta be someone else’s fault.

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        It’s honestly embarrassing and makes the left look bad.

        And I’m sure someone will come in here to tell me that I’m a “shitlib” or something and not a leftist, because I don’t pass their horseshit purity test.

        This is why the left can never do shit. Nobody else is the “correct” kind of left in their mind, and therefore they refuse to even deal with them, let alone attempt to form any kind of coalition. It’s so fucking cringe to anybody who lives in the real world.

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    If the US had Defensive Democracy, then maybe they could do something.

    But instead, we have whoever wins (aka: gets the most rich doners) gets to become president, even if they want to violate the very oath they are about to take.

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      Which means that the only thing that can stop the orange idiot is one high ranking military officer having the courage to arrest him as a domestic threat to America. Although that would come with its own set of problems. In other words, we’re fucked.

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    Didn’t Eisenhower or some president warn about the dangers of the burgeoning military indistrial complex in his farewell address?

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      And Eisenhower is remembered for it, respected for it, 60+ years later.

      Biden and Harris will say nothing.