He’s just going to get people killed. But that’s ok he doesn’t give a shit anyways, so it’s moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?

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    So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.

    This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.

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      I spent a decade living around Africa, and this kind of thinking is common. DDT was what everyone put on the tomatoes because pests mean loss of food. Who wants that?

      Lack of relations is only about living in short-term survival thinking 24/7. Long term effects mean nothing.

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        DDT isn’t going to cause health problems for the people in Africa. It will cause problems for some birds near the top of the food chain however.

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          It’s just the easiest example to use. I have maybe dozens more examples that require more storytelling and setup.

          Ever had someone try to sell you a car with visible drywall screws holding the bumper on, like you were the dick for pointing them out?

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        Seriously. It’s like no one realizes the literal most important thing in all of the world.

        Line go up.

        Fuck your family, fuck your health, fuck your safety, fuck yo couch, fuck the environment, LINE GO UP!

        C.R.E.A.M.

        … Fml

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          I’m kind of relieved we’re extincting ourselves before we become an interstellar plague of misery, with children being born into inescapable, perpetual oxygen debt to the local corporate leadership on Mars and Titan colonies.

          We’d make the Ferengi look like altruists. We were a mistake of evolution.

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            It’s the current western dominionist mindset that’s the mistake. Don’t mistake that for all of humanity (even if it currently makes up 90% of it).

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              As opposed to…who exactly? That one tribe in the sentinel Islands that hasn’t been contacted by modern civilization yet?

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                Sure. Also many other cultures who have been contacted and haven’t been completely destroyed.

                But the point is not that we should copy some tiny tribe’s way of life, the point is that western dominionism is not the only way that humans are capable of organising their societies. There are likely many other ways that have never been tried yet that are much better than what we have now.

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                  So… would you ignore all of recorded history, and most of anthropological records that dictate humanity has always been in a race to find new and exciting ways to kill each other?

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            It took WW3 to fix humans in Star Trek. In that timeline, they outlawed genetic engineering so that elite supermen cannot be made.

            In ours, I hope we outlaw millionaires and worse. That way, elite dinguses cannot be born.

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          In every civilization there comes a time where the interests of the elite grilled too far apart from the interests of the common people. Some kind of correction becomes inevitable. The way this correction plays out and who wins is another matter. But it looks like in the coming decades, maybe centuries, a new to type of economic model gets worked out, based on sustainability first, or very soon new tech is survived that allowed further line going up without destroying the planet. But living through a pivot in history is always a stressful affair.

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            Rick James from Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories?

            R.I.P. Charlie Murphy

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      Go read about how horribly adulterated food was in Europe and the US in the 1800s and before. They’d add sawdust to flour, chalk, toxic metals, rotten meat was sold regularly, etc. Patent medicines were essentially drug trafficking or just scams. Soldiers in the Spanish-American war were supplied with canned meat from the US Civil War. I saw an old film from the time the Pure Food and Drug act was passed showing a can of meat being opened and it literally shot out from the gasses inside.

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        Well, the Libertarians and Republicans had their heads poisoned with total rot like Ayn Rand’s horrible sci-fi, and then spent the past several decades screaming about how derrp, we don’t need no regulations!

        Now I guess we all get to find out along with these dolts.

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          Not to mention the US falling 110% into the cult of individualism. Individualism is fine if it is balanced with the needs of society as a whole. You can’t even get people to chip into schools and roads, shared resources, anymore.

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        Do you have examples of this stuff happening in continental European countries? I’d love to jump down that rabbit hole.

        In the past I’ve read descriptions of systematic bad practices in the industrialized Uk, but I can’t recall reading about similar things happening in other western European countries. Nothing systematic anyhow. I’d image that the french would have had a(nother) revolution if anyone had tried that stuff with their food.

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          Enjoy!

          I think the English were just better at recording it.

          https://victorianweb.org/science/health/health1.html

          https://edu.rsc.org/feature/the-fight-against-food-adulteration/2020253.article

          Here is one in Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esing_Bakery_incident

          France passed a food adulteration law in 1905. Many countries were cracking down on it around this time along with the US with the Pure Food and Drug Act under Teddy Roosevelt.

          Examples of food adulteration in France in the 1800s:

          https://review.gale.com/2020/01/08/wine-adulteration-in-the-nineteenth-century/

          Copper-colored vegetables: French beans, cucumbers, and samphires were often colored green with copper. This could have fatal consequences.

          Beer: Brewers added substances like copperas, quassia, liquorice juice, and Nux vomica to make beer bitter.

          Wine: The wine industry was affected by the Phylloxera epidemic, which destroyed a large proportion of vines. In response, wine adulteration increased.

          Confectionery: Arsenic and mercury compounds were used as colorants.

          Mustard: Lead chromate was added to mustard.

          Meat: Animal health became a concern as meat consumption increased.

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            Many thanks for the links, was interesting.

            Just by the existence of food standards laws, we know that there must have been food standards problems. Stuff like mayonnaise composition being put into law, must mean that there had been a mayonnaise quality problem or worries at a certain point in time, I just can’t find any specific info on when or what. Those scandals were probably recorded just as well in the news papers of my small country, but if no one writes a new article or paper about the scandal 50+ years after it happened, then that info won’t turn up in an internet search query.

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      They will just call it Freedom Juice™ and write on the packaging that it makes the food taste more better.

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    You have to remember that musk literally, unironically, thinks we’re npcs. He actually genuinely does not think that the masses of poor people are actually people.

    So no, he won’t fucking care.

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      You got a little extra negative there.

      Not negativity, you can’t overstate the direness. Just grammar.

      He actually genuinely thinks that the masses of poor people aren’t actually people.

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      Pretty sure that level of delusion is comparable to Chris-chan. Which is fitting because if there are two people I want nothing to do with outside of homicide its them. Musk because he is a sub human Anglo African and Chris-Chan because im pretty sure id default to mercy killing them.

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          General disconnect from tbe underlying functions of reality. In the case of Chris-Chan its a matter of their mind being scrambled by underlying mental health issues and decades of trolling, in Musks case its moreso a matter of being a rich being corrosive as a baseline and him being so narcissistic and maladaptive also a lot of ketamine.

          Frankly I pity Chris-chan, as for Musk I would revel in his death.

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            scrambled by underlying mental health issues and decades of trolling

            Hey wouldn’t it be fun if a large group of people spent twenty years convincing a seriously mentally ill person that they have various girlfriends (and trick them into sending porn to those “girlfriends” - usually teenage boys), that Nintendo wants to make their OC official, and then finally that they are an interdimensional goddess with magical powers that needs to have sex with their mom?

            The “Liquid Chris saga” almost seems innocent in comparison to the later shit - but realizing that they probably believed that there was an imposter who had stolen their girlfriend and that Nintendo had been tricked into making the imposter’s Sonichu series… like that’s really fucked up.

            Like, wtf is that other than a mass psychological torture and bullying campaign? Why did no one at any point intervene?

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              There were attampts at intervention but they largely failed, the fact of the matter is there was and is very little legal framework for this type of shit and what does exist is wholly insufficient.

              Personally I am of the documentarian branch when it co.es to observing lolcows, observe but dont interact. If content dries up then thats generally good. Dont harrass dont bother if theyre doing something illegal collect evidence and hand it over to the police, if the police do nothing then you can break them. Serisouly imagine if folks did to the Zoosadists what they did to Chris-Chan.