Imagine paying for data caps for home internet.
No thank you. I’d take DSL over that if I was rural
im not gonna lie. I halluecenated. and thought the title said “let them eat shit”
seems appropriate, still
You get what you fucking deserve when you lie down with vermin like Musk. Fuck this space-based nazi isp.
I live in a rural area. We were thinking about starlink a few years ago, then fiber came to our area. Thank goodness. We’ve literally had no issues, speeds are amazing, and no price hikes.
Fibre is racist and woke, that’s what tramp said at least.
He love the uneducated.
Given his steady diet of hamberders, I’m sure he does think fiber is woke
I’m super jealous. I’m out here in Western Maryland and I’d be happy to see us get plain old telephone service.
Not even a flat rate for that money
Ah, so this is why Elon wanted the rural broadband bill killed.
Why provide a public service when some capitalist can squeeze every penny from that same service?
Well, we’ll provide the service once we buy it from them because they ran it into the ground as a vulture capital operation, and then once we’ve invested a trillion taxpayer dollars into fixing it up, we’ll sell it back to them for pennies.
It’s got to work this time!
And this is why capitalism utterly sucks at providing public services.
It’s not really capitalism anymore if the CEO runs the government too.
Idk what else the USA has to do to show the obvious oligarchy y’all have.
Even if the politicos unironically started referring to themselves as oligarchs, a significant population of US citizens would likely either take it as a joke and hand-wave it away, or take it as further proof that that’s just what you do to get ahead.
“Radical feminists” on tumblr are calling themselves fascists because they are happy with the porn ban.
Masks are off, “radical feminism” was always a front.
I’m very sorry to hear about your aneurysm and how it’s impacted your ability to say anything that’s even vaguely related to the group you’re posting to.
Thoughts and prayers and healing vibes your way.
你会写英语，不懂英语。
Huh. Aneurysms that make you write in Google-translated other languages. Cool.
你也不懂汉语？你的名字是”张殿李”？你说不说汉语？你是中国人吗？
Masks are off, “radical feminism” was always a front.
You want to see rampant anti-male gender bigotry in play? Bring up - and be in favour of - “paper abortions”, and watch the hate flow.
Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely in favour of giving women abortion rights. But giving rights to only one gender and blatantly denying those exact same rights to the other is the dictionary definition of gender bigotry.
And while I may not want porn and smut to be trivially accessible to non-adults - and have absolutely no use for it, myself - I also wholeheartedly support the right of any legal adult to consume that content.
You want to see rampant anti-male gender bigotry in play? Bring up - and be in favour of - “paper abortions”, and watch the hate flow.
Oh, wow… That’s some alpha bro shit right there. You deserve whatever hate comes your way for that.
Oh, wow.… That’s some alpha bro shit right there. You deserve whatever hate comes your way for that.
Ah, another gender bigot, I see.
So tell me, why should one gender be absolutely denied what the other gender is fully allowed to do? Especially when - aside from the current lack of artificial wombs - BOTH genders could have the exact same rights?
Explain it to me in a way that doesn’t have you come across as a supremely bigoted female supremacist.
Explain it to me
Aren’t we entitled? No. Go away.
I’m very sorry to hear about your aneurysm and how it’s impacted your ability to say anything that’s even vaguely related to the group you’re posting to. I’m also very sorry to hear about your getting hit in the head by a shovel as an infant, thus causing you to say really stupid things as well.
Thoughts and prayers and healing vibes your way.
I’m very sorry to hear about your aneurysm and how it’s impacted your ability *to say anything that’s even vaguely related to the group you’re posting to*. I’m also very sorry to hear about your getting hit in the head by a shovel as an infant, thus causing you to say really stupid things as well.
Thoughts and prayers and healing vibes your way.
Imagine being someone so bereft of any viable counter-argument, that the only possible response is an ad hominem.
And receiving ad hominems is a great way to identify intellectual bankruptcies in others. When the puerile and solipsistic insults come out, you know you’ve gotten under their skin in ways they have no rational or logical adult-level responses for.
CEO running the government is late stage capitalism.
Capitalism is antithetical to public services, at least according to Milton Friedman.
monopolism* utterly sucks at providing public services (except for some governmental monopolies because those can be democratically controlled)
once the starlink monopoly is broken this will happen less and less because if they raise prices the customers can switch to a different system from another company and spacex will lose money.
I’m one of those people for who Starlink very much is the only option. I moved from Northern Virginia to Western Maryland. This land used to be state park and all it has is electricity and mail delivery. No water, no sewage, no telephone, no internet other than cell hotspot or Starlink. It sucks but I have to try and separate my distaste for Musk with the engineers and people who actually run Starlink day to day, because at the end of the day the service is pretty damn good. The only issue I have (besides the price) is with VoIP traffic; but SIP acts fucky even with Cat5/6 sometimes so idk. I looked up the current policy and at least in the US they do not have a soft data cap. They did when the service initially launched AFAIK but that’s been replaced with a more general “network management” policy (throttling, etc) . https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1470-99699-90?regionCode=US
We’re having a pretty nasty thunderstorm right now and it barely misses a beat. I swear I’m not a musk shill lol, I just remember 3G hotspots and how much worse this would have been.
Also don’t hack me plz
Just gonna let you know, if ya have 5g available more specifically T-Mobile then ya can get an at home 5g router. It is most definitely cheaper and may have lower latency, though I don’t know how their network is on the East coast furthest east I’ve gone is Utah.
T Mobile is amazing on the east coast.
I often find situations where I have service when my partner in Verizon does not.
I really miss t-mob from living in northern virginia. I’m up in the Appalachian mountains tucked between two peaks. There was a plan at one time to utilize the old 800mhz band for some sort of municipal internet (since 800mhz can either punch through the rock or “ride” along the earth, been too long since RF school to remember). But as far as I know nothing ever came of it.
Unfortunately we only get AT&T and maybe a whiff of T-Mobile once in a blue moon. Gotta go a few miles into town to get reliable service, especially if you want 5G. Thanks though.
So this is what I did for a long time at my folks place out in the boonies.
- Get yourself another line with unlimited data.
- Buy yourself one of these: GL.iNet GL-MT3000 or GL.iNet GL-AX1800
- Connect the phone to the USB slot.
- Turn on the phone’s USB tethering option.
- Go into the router’s admin page and tell it to use USB tethering as the WAN option.
I do this with the same router when there are internet outages (thanks Cablevision).
It works great to get everyone in the house happy.
Hows that work if there is no signal?
OP states the get AT&T signal. You live out in the country, you have to get creative. Find the spot where signal is strong, plop your phone there. Mine at the time hung in front of a window.
Unfortunately, for me the spot where the signal is strong is ~250 feet up on top of a mountain. We had a cell booster that worked great on 3G but I’m not real keen on spending another $150 on a new repeater that may or may not pick up a signal from our roof. Another fun aspect of being out in the country is that I’m living in a converted pole barn which has a metal “skin” with double layer mylar foil/foam insulation that makes it quite difficult for signals to get inside. There’s no mesh so it’s not a full Faraday cage but it creates a lot of attenuation.
The AT&T hotspot is actually data capped, higher ping, and quite slow since we only have HSPA+ (4G) way out here. We used a hotspot while we were on the wait list for Starlink and just knowing there was a data cap made it pretty unpleasant to use. I should have specified that in the original post.
Yep, Starlink is the only internet that works out here. In WV, can confirm.
These are the prices and data I see. I currently have the $10 plan.
I think I found the answer. When I checked Starlink’s site, those prices plans match up with the personal plans, but it appears that the user in the screenshot has a business plan.
Screenshots should be the Business Local Priority & Global Priority pricing respectively. My prices might be different than the original screenshot (I’m in Canada and I’m not sure how they localize pricing), but the data amounts seems to line up with the selections in the screenshot.
I wouldn’t use this service unless I literally had no other option. But sadly “no other option” is why they are able to jack up the prices and change the terms and conditions as they feel like with impunity.
What’s worse is, because it’s an option. The work that was being done for other reliable works will be put on indefinite hold. Musk monopolized our orbit. He needs to be brought before an effective tribunal and have his decision scrutinized harshly. I know, I know. “But he won’t”. If everyone had that attitude we would still be riding horses so help or shut up.
Yup, were i live it’s not even that rural but I only have 1 option and it’s basically double the price it should be if I was in a competitive market… 300 down 30 up for $100.
Yep. Got one for my mother who lives in remote Jamaica so we could check on her after hurricanes.
Oof, my current data consumption for the past 30 days is 1.2 TB on buttery smooth 1Gb fiber. I can’t imagine being bound to 500 GB like is the 2007 dark ages.
I haven’t thought about a data cap in years once I was lucky enough to get fiber in my house.
Same as you: symmetrical 1gbps up and down, baby.
What I think is crazy: at your 1 gigabit per second speed, if you use your full speed for only 3 hours you will go over your data limit. For the month.
You only get capped if you on one of the lite or priority tariffs.
Lite is fair, you paying less so you get less, not everybody needs a huge data allowance especially if its a backup or other infrequently used service.
Priority is where it gets squirrelly. You only really need priority if you in a high density area for starlink as you will get throttled, but you don’t really need priority if you aren’t unless you absolutely need to rinse the performance all the time. I typically get about 200mb down and 25mb up, but this can drop to 80mb and 10mb during peak times.
This isn’t the end of the world for me as being able to access high speed internet anywhere, even on a boat is the most important thing. Sure I would like the sync 1gb I have at home while out, but its more than enough when I am away from home in the middle of nowhere.
Obviously I would rather not use starlink at all because fuck Musk and fuck the way the starlink sats are in low orbit for star gazing, but I do not have anything remotely comparable for even his inflated prices.
People always say use 4G or 5G, when I often dont even get 2G and I am reliant on wifi calling via the starlink. I have a proper external 4G antenna and its still shit when properly in the middle of nowhere.
I am unsurprised. I thought it would take longer for it to become outrageously priced, but here we are. this specific pricing is extra crazy IMO.
In any case, I scoffed at the pricing when it was almost reasonable during their trial phases… Back then IIRC it was like $100-150 usd/mo. or something… That’s too much for me already. Seems like they’ve previously increased it to around $200-300 and now they’ve lost their damn minds.
Star link was never economically sensible, price hikes were inevitable. There’s just too few people in their target audience and too many satellites that are simply too costly to maintain at the levels they previously had. I hoped, for the sake of anyone who required starlink for a reasonable Internet connection speed, that the business plans and corporate users would shoulder most of the cost, but here we are.
I think it’s between $120 a month for home use and $165 a month for RV / travel use.
Starlink is out again. I figured this is how it would end up.
This kind of shit would have been surprising to me 15 years ago, but today it’s just, how it fucking is, and I hate it.
