And so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the “centrist”, only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.
Gavin never supported progressive ideals?
Eh, early in his term he did a bunch of good stuff, it’s just rightly overshadowed by the bad stuff.
You can’t abandon ideals that you never held.
No surprise to anyone who’s been paying attention to what he does instead of what he says.
I’d vote for Newsom if he’s the nominee, but I really hope he’s not the nominee (assuming, obviously, the relative utopian future where we get to vote in 2028).
I’m glad when his media exposure goals overlap with doing actual good things, but - and I may be putting too fine a point on it - he’s basically Hillary if Hillary had a penis and was super jazzed about it, and I am fairly confident I know the smug look he makes when he smells his own farts.
He’s fully bought by aipac. A vote for him is a vote to murder children and civilians.
Real shame that our voting choices are kill children and kill children at turbo speed but alas
I don’t think he’d do well in a primary taking a proactive stance against a billionaire tax
The DNC has a plan for that where they just ignore the vote and nominate him anyway.
Much like this old gem.
They fixed that. It’s part of why Schumer caved. The lower influence of the DNC in primaries meant he couldn’t use that power to whip votes and keep control of the party.
This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.
Yuck.
At this point in time I’m pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?
If you’re not greedy, the billionaires won’t fund your campaign. Then you lose.
Well, added context is billionaires won’t fund your campaign causing your public relations to drop. Then you lose.
We shouldn’t just scapegoat the rich for something that tens of millions of people vote for while tens of millions more don’t vote at all.
Irrelevant context. As a great sage once said
If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice
This is a binary system one OR the other will win. There is no other outcome. You either push to influence it in a better or worse direction you dont get to sit it out. The result WILL effect you.
It is relevant and important context because we solve this problem by convincing the millions of people, not the rich.
A wise famous playwrite once said:
"Putting the cart before the horse ".
This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
His sales pitch is centered around “I’m not a Republicantm!”
Most people on this planet don’t lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.
On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it’s between him and
<insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I’ll vote for him.However, I’d imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of “friend” of the poor and the middle class.
I’d vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.
A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn’t be voting for him, I’d be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.
You’re not voting for him. You’re voting against the other guy.
THATS. HOW. TRUMP. WON.
How have ppl not realized not being Trump can’t be your entire platform!?!?
Then vote in the fucking primary. I. The general you sit up and back the better candidate no matter how shit.
First of all, Harris’ tax plan was to tax unrealized gains over $1M would effectively make all Billionaire’s income go limp dick, and possibly reverse the deficit at the same time, so this is actually a worse choice.
Second, how did that fucking go? Huh? 2024 was an easy decision. 2016 was an easy decision. People keep fucking it up. No matter who wins the primary, we need to be out there promoting NotARepublican™.
He’s also pro-genocide.
Remember Democrats, if he’s the Democrat option come election time it’s TOO LATE TO bitch!!
Fucking primaries!! They matter they are the only real choice! Organize, cavas suppot real progressives!
But once the national election comes up, I better not hear any fucking bitching, and you better line up becuase 4 years of president Vance is going to kick you in the nuts.
I don’t like him, he’s just another Republican-lite establishment Democrat, like Obama, or the Clintons. He used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, before she became Don Jr’s concubine (Now she’s in exile as the Greek Ambassador, to shut her up), so he must be tolerant enough of MAGA nonsense to marry one.
I’m so sick of these people claiming to be our saviors every four years, and when they get in, they spend ALL their efforts appeasing corrupt pedophile traitors, even when they have the power to crush them.
We’ve seen what MAGA is capable of, and what they want in the future. When the power flips, we have to fight fire with fire, and ruthlessly purge MAGA from our government and our society, and I doubt Newsome is the guy for the job. He’s just another water-carrier for the Sociopathic Oligarchs, which California has lots of.
But if he’s the nominee, then that’s who I’ll vote for over ANY MAGA.
If I’m forced to vote for this asshole I’m going to bitch the entire time.
Why? Because it’s bullshit and I’m allowed to.
Fuck the Democratic Party.
Remember Democrats, if he’s the Democrat option come election time it’s TOO LATE TO bitch!!
And that’s why I’m not a Democrat.
Liberals gonna liberal.
I’d still rather have a capitalist than a fascist.
Scratch a capitalist and you’ll find a fascist. But yeah gun to my head, I’ll take it. Figuratively speaking, at least for now.
Bang on.
But milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.
I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani’s momentum continues.
A lefty needs to win a governor seat in a major state first to continue that momentum to the White House. That will give the average blue voter the confidence to vote for a social democrat or socialist in the primaries.
Yeah that’s the thing about capitalists: They come as a package with fascists.
At some point the left needs to realize that sitting out voting doesn’t work. Yes the candidate sucks from your political stance but they are better than the alternative and it gives a platform from which to push left. This has been the playbook of the right for decades and is why they have been so successful in shifting the Overton window. They vote in any circumstance even if the candidate isn’t as right leaning as they would prefer but to them at least it’s not a dem.
Edit: to be clear I’m all for taxing billionaires and corporations far more.
We still have ample time to get someone better than Gavin.
Your vote is your voice. A vote is earned not expected.
As a permanent resident who cannot vote but pays 6 figures in taxes. VOTE. Some of us aren’t so lucky
I’ll never vote for Newsom. I’ve stated that on here before. He’s anti-trans and deep in corporate pockets. The Getty family owns him.
So you’re ok with Trump. Got it. How’s his stance on Trans people?
Burn down that’s why needs to be done. So fuck yall hell Newsome already acting like Trump. By 2028 he be the Trump of 2016. The Democrats always move further right. Look at his fucking tweets. You think he just making fun of Trump but worse he thinks acting childish like him will win him those Republican votes.
Just like Harris running around with the Cheney they rather court Republicans then give progressive an inch. So voting for them or Republican not going do shit. Hell you just going get a blue fascist instead of red.
Here we go again… “If you don’t vote for Biden you support Trump!” … “If you don’t vote for Harris you support Trump!” … “If you don’t vote for X you support Trump!”
I wonder how that works in solid color states. If you vote third party in a solid blue state, does that mean a vote for red? Or is it actually a vote for blue if you ask for a red voter’s opinion on the matter?
Going off the theory that your vote is actually for the person a particular voter opposes, does that mean your protest vote is actually determined by the popular vote? For example, if you protest voted the 2024 election, does that mean you actually voted blue because red won the popular vote? Assuming that every color says the protest vote voted for their enemies.
Staunch third party voter reporting in. Voting for the big two feels like an obligation given to me by the powerful. Third party is vastly more exciting!
Every vote is a push in one direction or the other in the US. You can vote to push right, you can vote to push left, or you can avoid voting and let the rest of us decide for you. But the last time a bunch of leftists weren’t thrilled with the options, the electorate voted to push right. From your valid gripes against Newsom, I’m gonna guess that was not what you wanted.
Come election day, one of the two candidates is guaranteed to become president. You cannot stop that. I won’t try to say Newsom is ideal or even a good candidate. I’d love to see someone else run instead. But if you want an even more leftist candidate next time, the country has to show they’ll tolerate movement in that direction, and that means not electing another fucking Republican.
Every action is a vote for something. It never hurts to consider the consequences.
By all means push forward a better candidate than Newsom. And I hope you succeed. But if you don’t, and it turns out that in the end it’s going to be either Newsom or Vance (or even Trump), then who would you rather have?
It’s not the left who sits out, it’s less politically engaged people. Bought out “Centrist” candidates fail to motivate turnout while getting negligible Republican voters to switch. Progressive candidates do better at both. They’re safer bets. Left wingers try and explain this and get blamed
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.
The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years.
So there are two possible interpretations for why the Democrats are so stubbornly useless:
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It’s a big club and you ain’t in it.
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You can’t get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.
Either way there’s no “realizing” anything.
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Slimey as fuck I hate that guy
I mean c’mon, let’s not get too carried away, next thing ya know they’ll be wanting to tax the billionaires or something.
This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.
Yuck.
Eww explains a lot
On the side of the billionaires and the zionists. He’ll be the next president for sure.
Fuck you sleeze bag
