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    Just get a usbC flash drive. USB C is actually pretty good and you can easily get one that has both a and c.

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    lol what happened to emailing the presentation or sharing it on a cloud drive like Google

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    I’m honestly kinda shocked we’ve not managed to bridge the airdrop gap.

    Quickshare is hit or miss

    Wetransfer wasn’t bad but didn’t like corporate networks.

    Dropbox and Bitwarden send are OK, but you have to email/sms links.

    We should have blue tooth beacons and 900mhz Halow by now.

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      I’m not sure what I would send to an apple user that couldn’t be done over text, they don’t exactly tend to be tech literate.

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        Developers, photographers, project managers, they have their niches.

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      There is a way to share files across and between all platforms (Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android, Linux):

      Local Send

      As long as you are in the same network as the recipient you can share everything across this app. There are no limitations in file type or size. I use this app constantly to send files from phone to laptop or PC, and I can highly recommend it. It’s free.

      The recipient doesn’t even need the app, as you can provide a qr code that can be scanned by the recipient from your phone to start the download of the shared file(s).

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        That does look really promising. I was trying other sites like that before, but every time i hit a corporate network, they failed to connect. this one looks more robust

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      I just send a link to a public folder in my Nextcloud. You can also add huge files to your email with the Nextcloud plugin in Thunderbird. Still have to send a link but best option for me so far.

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        USB-A is the common standard. Most devices are made with USB-A compatibility. Most portable media are USB-A.

        I’m not even going after the vast majority of my hard stops when I pick technology, like the fact that there’s no proper (S)VGA and no full-size DisplayPort (and I mean proper DisplayPort, not an “HDMI” plug into a DisplayPort interface), or the lack of a hardware switch to fully disable power to all onboard radio and modem devices.

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      My Mac studio m2 was the only computer I ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB cables

      People talk about Apple hardware like it’s incredible, but honestly, no pc manufacturer would make that mistake

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        compatibility issues with some USB cables

        I’d like to hear more about this. I have a theory that as great as USB-C is for consistency, the fact that it shares a connector with Thunderbolt (to say nothing about the different versions of Thunderbolt) introduces a level of uncertainly when looking at a USB-C connector.

        • it can be a “charge-only” cable (USB 2.0)
        • it can charge slowly, or quickly
        • it can be a USB-C cable
        • it can be Thunderbolt 3 / USB 4.0
        • it can be active, or passive
        • it can be Thunderbolt 4
        • it can be Thunderbolt 5

        I’m certainly not trying to discount your experience. I’m sure you ran into significant problems. But in general I continue to believe that the general public may not have the right “flavor” of USB-C cable to do what they are trying to do in a given situation.

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          It’s nothing to do with the standard I believe

          The same cables and adapters all worked when I used them on my nuc for the same devices, and they wouldn’t even work with my mouse on the Mac studio.

          My suspicion is that the shell of the case is a bit thick (as the port is recessed behind it), so some cables just failed to touch fully. As, some cables felt more snug and clicked into the port better

          For the cost of the computer, it damned sure shouldn’t have that issue

          Even worse, for the price of the computer, the power button should be on front, not buried on the back. That’s overcomplicating things for the sake of doing so

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            Reminds me of the original iPhone and the 3.5mm audio jack that was too “deep” for normal headphones.

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      What’s rather ironic is my Linux FOSS setup is more compatible than ever because it can open my students .notes and .pages files, while MS Word couldn’t.

      And naturally, I’m proud of using FOSS so I guess I’m proud to be compatible with everything.

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        What are you using for .pages? I have .docx covered but have a backlog I planned to convert someday.

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      In apple’s defense, they wanted a reversible high speed connector, but the USB committee in their infinite wisdom was like “what if we added a tumor to the micro USB instead?”

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      fuck apple but you’re kinda mistaken here, if you’re talking about just iphone, maybe you’re right - but they had usb c (actually thunderbolt) on macbook and ipad before any legal rulings, macbooks before there was even any hint of legislation iirc.

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          yeah i have an external ssd that uses that weird clamshell connector, you can actually just plug in a regular micro B and it works with usb 2.0 speeds

          lightning was basically a better version of the micro-b connector, it debuted with the iPhone 5 in 2012, it had a few advantages over micro-B including a reversible connector. back when it came out apple users complained because all the accessories used the old 30-pin connector so they weren’t compatible, so apple pledged to not change the iPhone connector again for a long time, iirc 10 years? i think that’s why iPhones were still using lightning until 2023 despite having usb C on the macbook since 2016

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            Yeah, the hate on lightning kinda reminds me of the hate on FireWire. It’s like, the only alternative at the time was USB 1.0, which was 8mbs. Even in the late early 00s, that could have meant hours to sync your phone iPod.

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        usb c (actually thunderbolt)

        aren’t these different tech stacks and connectors?

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          Macbooks have had Thunderbolt 3 (the protocol) over USB-C (the physical form factor) since about 2015. The Thunderbolt 3 protocol became incorporated into the USB 4 standard in 2019 (and is implemented on the physical USB-C port).

          Earlier versions of Thunderbolt were proprietary standards jointly controlled by Apple and Intel, but implemented over Mini-DisplayPort connectors. They were phased out in new devices starting in around 2015.

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          used to be, not anymore though, thunderbolt uses the same ports as USB C and is compatible with USB C, you can think of thunderbolt as enhanced USB C

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            is it thunderbolt emulated through software on the USB pin stack? or is it really thunderbolt pins offering a USB connector, emulating USB protocols on the thunderbolt stack?

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              No. Some pins in USB can be used for non-USB protocols. If your monitor takes USB-C, likely the video signal is transmitted using DisplayPort on those pins.

              Ditto thunderbolt.

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              Its capable of some pretty high bandwidths, there’s some extra hardware required to make the ports work for thunderbolt. But I think it just runs through the normal USB-C pins.

              Its more like an internal switch, rather than emulation. At least the Wikipedia page mentions different pin configurations per usage mode…

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                I asked a slop machine and it said that Thunderbolt is implemented in the PCIe/Displayport hardware mode of the USB. I then checked the wikipedia and it more or less aligned with that interpretation

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      iPhones only have USB-C because they were forced to, but MacBooks were some of the very early adopters of the connector, and iPads also picked it up well before the requirement.

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    Hey remember that tried and true universal plug-in that literally works on everything and everybody loves? Lets not have that anymore.

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      I know Apple is terrible with usability, but I also think USB-C is now the one that works everywhere. All my last USB stick purchases had USB-A and C, just so that I don’t have to run away in tears. I can even use them with smartphones and those never had USB-A.

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        It’s the new standard, but there should always be at least one USB-A. It’s still incredibly common.

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            And? Is there something newer that’s a standard? If not, it’s the new one.

            Also, it’s only recently become the de facto standard. Yes, it’s older than that, but it didn’t become the standard until maybe five years ago. So much was still being made for USB-A, and some things still are. Anything older than ~5 years ago has good odds of being A.

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              Anything older than 5 years ago has the odds of being A, B, Mini A, Mini B, Micro A, Micro B, etc.

              C is the standard. If you need legacy support, there’s hubs and adapters. No need to perpetuate legacy ports. I’d love a serial and a parallel connector - there’s plenty of modern industrial gear still using them. But we do that with C -> Serial adapters.

              A device has a limited number of ports. Would one rather two USB-C, or one A and one C?

              That A port will have diminishing value if one intends to use the device for 5 to 10 years and increases the probability someone discards the device early given the limited number of modern, high value ports.

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                I don’t have a single peripheral that uses USB-C. I have a lot of USB-A and some micro-USB.

                My phone is USB-C and that’s about it. Given that my 2 year old PC case has 8 USB-A connectors and 1 USB-C connector, I’d also wager keyboards and mice won’t stop being USB-A anytime soon. There’s just no reason for them to be anything else.

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                  Weirdly my 5 year old computer has more C than anything, and my mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers, and audio interface are all C. I guess it’s possible a regional thing too.

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              Furthermore I shouldn’t have to get rid of an old A device that still works just because they remove the ports. I don’t care how old it is let me use my external CD drive with the USB-A to Mini-USB (yes mini lmao.) Wish I still had an attached optical disk drive tbh.

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              For progress to happen you have to move on eventually. Hubs are a decent compromise.

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        Both USB-C and USB-A have their pros and cons.

        • USB-C has a lot more bandwidth and power draw.

        • USB-A is sturdier and cheaper.

        For things like a mouse or keyboard, having more bandwidth or power draw are useless, but being cheaper and sturdier are not.

        One can not replace the other entirely. Apple just wants to milk everyone by forcing them to buy all their peripherals again.

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        my home computer has no USB-C and I can’t afford to upgrade because gestures broadly.

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            First day of the COVID confinement I plugged in a cheap usb c/a dongle into my work laptop to use my mouse and instantly fried the mobo.

            Just saying eh 😁

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            I have a USB-C hub with USB-A ports that plugs into my work PC. I had a hard time trying to find the opposite, though I haven’t looked in ages; it honestly has come up exactly once in the last few years when I needed to borrow my wife’s sd card reader (or dig my old laptop out of the closet and play the updates game).

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        And I have about 20 USB-A flash drives, up to 128GB, that I should just toss in the trash because…why exactly? Because they are “old”?

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          “all my recent flash drives have had both ports so I can use them with usb a or usb c!”

          “WHAT SO I SHOULD JUST TOSS ALL MY OLD HARDWARE?”

          no one said that. youre just saying shit. you can still use your usb-a flash drives.

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          Bro, just get an A-C Adapter. They are like 20cents und always useful, especially if you have old hardware

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            So now we need to buy dongles for something that should be standard on a computer?

            Next thing we’ll need a dongle for the power button, because Apple decided that shouting “POWER ON APPLE” is the better way to turn on a laptop.

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              Stop whining so much, no one’s telling you to use a dongle, there’s nothing wrong with USB-C slowly replacing USB-A and becoming a new standard.

              We’d never be rid of VGA if we were listening to the ever nagging old dorks that can’t get themselves an adapter.

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                Thank you, I was just about to write a lengthy paragraph about serial ports being the only standard ever needed 😅

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                  Psh you youngsters with your fancy serial ports! Tin cans with string were good enough for my grandparents and they’re good enough for me!

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          No - but you can get a A to C adapter if you expect that you’ll bring it to someone who might only have USB C.

          And from my perspective: if I expect other to being me data id expect from myself to bring such an adapter. That way I’d both parties try to remember chances are one of them have. :)

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            It’s not normal to expect someone to not have USB-A on a computer though.

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                USB-A is still widely used, even more than USB-C, serial is not.

                Apple is forcing standards when there is no need, … again

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                  For mobile devices I don’t share that experience. I do not expect others to have USB A anymore. MacBooks alone are so widespread that they were enough to get sna adapter.

                  It’s the same for displays: if I have to give a presentation I’m making sure I can do next to everything down to and including VGA.

                  Yes it’s the venues job to take care of that but I’ve been in one place that literally went like “can’t you just connect?” to their apple bullshit.

                  That Apple is rotten to the core in many topics is nothing I feel needs discussing - this includes specifically their hostile stand and compatibility.

                  I honestly don’t even see an issue with the adapters though: it’s 5gram, 2(ish) Euro and sometimes I can even be the compability savior and people are forced to listen to me bitching about Apple!

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          USB-A to USB-C adapter. They’re inexpensive, and you don’t have to get one for each of the 30 flash drives you have.

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          If it’s just for documents I may still have single digit GB memory sticks somewhere that are more than enough space.

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          Who the hell still uses flash drives in 2026? Especially a slow-ass USB-A one. I can’t think of a single use-case for them.

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            Me. Linux distros (either install media or straight live boot disks like Tails), moving files larger than like fucking 2gb without relying on spyware or self hosting a cloud service, redundant backups of your most important files, rescue disks, and MORE! Only $16.99 for a limited time while supplies last see comment for details.

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              Linux distros (either install media or straight live boot disks like Tails)

              What’s the advantage of using a slow USB drive instead of just network-booting the install media or mounting it through IPMI?

              moving files larger than like fucking 2gb without relying on spyware or self hosting a cloud service

              Just send the data between machines using SCP, much easier and faster.

              redundant backups of your most important files

              Backups you do either to a NAS or to a Thunderbolt-connected SSD, not a USB-A drive. Again, much too slow to use a USB drive.

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                I don’t have internet spawning from my ass, so it works better in non-connected environments.

                More importantly I have no fucking clue what any of that means, but I can plug rectangle into rectangle hole. And absolutely 0 “how to install linux” tuts come with your set-up, so I’m gonna guess most new people don’t know how to either. “Do network magic because some dickhead wants to remove all ports” isn’t going to be a selling point for them.

                Can I SCP my dad the pictures of my vacation from 3 states away? Maybe. Would he prefer I mail him a “zip drive?” Yes. Not everyone on earth is a 1337 H4x0r like yourself there zero cool.

                You really need your monthly 3rd redundant backup of your .kdbx file to be lightning fast? I can wait the .03 seconds it takes to transfer I’m not in as much of a hurry as you.

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                  I don’t have internet spawning from my ass, so it works better in non-connected environments.

                  Yeah, if you’re in the middle of a desert, Antarctica or in some jungle then I can imagine. But the majority of people who are not on a safari somewhere and live in a normal, populated area will have internet practically everywhere. You’d have to go out of your way to find a place without internet.

                  More importantly I have no fucking clue what any of that means

                  Then maybe just buy a Mac and get 99% of the benefits of a *nix system without needing the appropriate knowledge.

                  Can I SCP my dad the pictures of my vacation from 3 states away? Maybe. Would he prefer I mail him a “zip drive?”

                  He would prefer you sending him a simple WhatsApp message with your pictures instead of having to mess with a thumb drive.

                  You really need your monthly 3rd redundant backup of your .kdbx file to be lightning fast?

                  No. I need my hourly incremental backup of my entire drive to be fast.

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                What’s the advantage of using a slow USB drive instead of just network-booting the install media or mounting it through IPMI?

                Why spend 30 minutes setting up the networking when I could just plug in the USB and go do something else for 5 minutes?

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      Where did we go wrong? We might never know … but it for sure isn’t because of cult-like loyalty to a single company notorious for doing this. It’s a mystery